Warrior General Games

Hey guys,

I posted this thread on the Suggestions Forum and am interested to hear what you guys think.

<http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3759251>

I firmly believe many of you are some of the best Owners and GMs in the game and respect your opinions/feedback either way so I hope to hear something from you gents.

Cheers.
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Would like to see the development of "System" tags for both the Offense and Defense to allow for further differentiation between teams and styles of play, just as in the real game.

The idea would be that the Team Owner (or an assigned GM/Coord) could select from a preset list of "System" tags for both the Offense and Defense that would provide Position and Situation specific bonuses to the team and players.

For example, some Offensive "Systems" & benefits could be:

West Coast:
QB = +VIS, +Accuracy/Pass Quality
WR = +AGI, +Break Tackle %
TE/HB/FB = +AGI, +Catch
OL = +SPD, +AGI, +% Screen Blcoking

Spread:
QB = +VIS, +Throw
WR/TE = +SPD, +Catch %
RB = +SPD, +AGI
OL = +AGI, +Pass block %

Smash Mouth:
QB = +Conf,
WR = +Catch %, +Block
HB = +STR, +Carry, +Break Tackle %,
FB = +STR, +Lead Block
TE = +STR, +Run Block %
OL = +STR, +Block

Vertical Passing:
QB = +STR, +Pass Distance %
WR = +SPD, +Catch %, +First Step
HB = +SPD, +Pass Block %,
FB = +Block
TE = +Spd,
OL = +AGI, +Pass Block,

Zone Blocking (Would need a couple new VA's*):
QB = +VIS, +Fake%
WR = +SPD, +Block
HB = +Vis, +Cutback Runner,
FB = +Block, +Lead Block
TE = +AGI, +Run Block,
OL = +AGI, + Block,


Examples of some Defensive "Systems":

Cover Two:
DE: +AGI, +Pass Rusher
NT/DT: +AGI, +Break Block %
OLB: +SPD, +Jackhammer
MLB/ILB: +SPD, +VIS
CB: +SPD, +Ball Hawk
SS/FS: +VIS, +Zone Specialist

Zone Blitz:
DE: +SPD, +Jump the Snap
NT/DT: +AGI, +Break Block%
OLB: +First Step, +Blitzer
MLB: +Vision, +AGI on pass plays
CB: +SPD, +Zone Specialist
SS/FS: +Blitzer, +Zone Specialist

Read & React:
DE: +VIS, +SPD
NT/DT: +AGI, +VIS
OLB: +SPD, +Make Tackle %
MLB: +VIS, +Make Tackle %
CB: +VIS, +CONF
SS/FS: +VIS, +Zone Specialist

Bend-Don't-Break:
DE: +STR, +AGI, +RZ Freak,
NT/DT: +STR, +Break Block %, +RZ Freak,
OLB: +AGI, +Make Tackle %, +RZ Freak,
MLB: +STR, +Make Tackle %, +RZ Freak,
CB: +SPD, +RZ Freak, +Primetime Player,
SS/FS: +RZ Freak, +Closing Speed

Strong Up the Middle:
DE: +AGI
NT/DT: +STR, +AGI, +Break Block%
OLB: +SPD,
MLB/ILB: +STR, +VIS, +Make Tackle %, +FF%
CB: +VIS, +CONF
SS/FS: +AGI, +VIS, +Make Tackle %, +FF%


*New VAs:
Cutback Runner = This runner excels at making the right initial cut, +Vis prior to first cut, +Quick Cut on first cut & -Vis% to defenders upon his first cut.

Bootlegger = This QB excels at passing off the rollout, + SPD, +AGI, +VIS, +Pass Quality on bootleg plays

Ball Fake** = This QB is a play action specialist. +% effectiveness to the Play action fake (decreased Defender VIS) and +Pass Quality % on the play

**Ball Fake would require play action plays be implemented

System Modfiers/Math:

Additionally I think that the Teams and Players in the systems should be rewarded for the time they spend in each "System." So that a stable team running the same syatem w/ the same players benefits more than a team who changes players and systems every season. I'll use the rule that it takes 3 Seasons to fully implement (Team) or learn (Player) a system.

So whatever the end benefit of a system is (examples above), only a percentage is earned by the team running it:

Team benefits:
1st Season in a "System" = 30% (+30%)
2nd Season in a "System" = 70% (+40%)
3rd Season in a "System" = 100% (+30%)

Haven't decided yet, but could further say that players take time to learn the Systems and apply the same Math to players on the team so that:

1st Season in a "System" = 30% (+30%) of the Team Benefit
2nd Season in a "System" = 70% (+40%) of the Team Benefit
3rd Season in a "System" = 100% (+30%) of the Team Benefit

Interested to hear your thoughts and opinions.

You may want to redo the link. I don't think the one you posted is what you intended.

Originally posted by quinnqn2
You may want to redo the link. I don't think the one you posted is what you intended.

Apparently I can't link to that specific suggestion (weird) so i copied and pasted it here as well.

I really like! There would be a balancing act that would have to be maintained so that one system didn't become the go-to advantage, but it really has possibilities!

Originally posted by quinnqn2
I really like! There would be a balancing act that would have to be maintained so that one system didn't become the go-to advantage, but it really has possibilities!

Glad you agree.

If you don't mind, I'd appreciate your support on the suggestion forum thread w/ the same title.

Cheers!

I like this a lot

I like this idea. It could also be useful as a recruiting tool. Will post my support. Good, out-of-box thinking!

Did you know about this "archetype" thing coming tonight?

Originally posted by quinnqn2
Did you know about this "archetype" thing coming tonight?

I believe that is more for player builds though correct?

Correct, but the implications redirect the course of the game.

I think something like this would fit in with the archetype path. Don't see them as mutually exclusive. If anything, one would probably reinforce the other.

Just a point, they're going to want a penalty for something else attached to each of these styles.

I think your idea needs a lot of refinement and tweaking, but I really like it!

The more diversity the better.

Originally posted by MissingNola
I think something like this would fit in with the archetype path. Don't see them as mutually exclusive. If anything, one would probably reinforce the other.

Just a point, they're going to want a penalty for something else attached to each of these styles.

I think your idea needs a lot of refinement and tweaking, but I really like it!

Agreed. I just wanted to get the discussion going and see what ideas other have regarding it. I was trying to keep the idea relatively simple (something that would not require a system wide rewrite) and could just be layered over the top of the current game.

Penalties for certain abilities or SAs could definitely help differentiate the systems further.