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How much does strength effect your QB? is it helpful

Important but also overrated sometimes. imo strength should kind of match your receivers catching ability. 48 strength is good enough into the late level 30s and 30-40 strength works fine in lower levels. On deep passes, I'm pretty sure strength has a direct affect on pass accuracy, but people read to much into that and crank their strength up to 60 way earlier than necessary. My QB didn't have more than 48 strength up to level 38 and threw deep passes very well.

Originally posted by finsncanes
Important but also overrated sometimes. imo strength should kind of match your receivers catching ability. 48 strength is good enough into the late level 30s and 30-40 strength works fine in lower levels. On deep passes, I'm pretty sure strength has a direct affect on pass accuracy, but people read to much into that and crank their strength up to 60 way earlier than necessary. My QB didn't have more than 48 strength up to level 38 and threw deep passes very well.

If your WR can get deep, strength is by far the second most important thing next to throwing. If you have a dink and dunk team then you do not really need monster strength but 48 by LVL 32 is way to low.

Strength is very underrated imho. Especially at the early stages of the game. I know that on a team I oc, we have a level 46 QB with 110 Throwing, 50 Strength, 80 Vision, 70 confidence and he throws the ball worse then the level 30 on our farm with 100 throwing 70 strength 48 vision.

Any point in capping strength first (to build naturally from there)? I created a QB with high strength on the initial build.

I like strength as an initial focus for pocket QBs, especially because the only major QB attribute it's paired with is throwing.

STR/THR > THR/VIS > VIS/CON is a good training progression.

People often seem to forget that strength also helps break tackles and hold onto the ball when being hit.

Get your strength high enough, and you'll be throwing bullets as well as making all the high-agility finesse pass-rushers look pretty stupid.

Originally posted by mdp sack attack
I like strength as an initial focus for pocket QBs, especially because the only major QB attribute it's paired with is throwing.

STR/THR > THR/VIS > VIS/CON is a good training progression.

People often seem to forget that strength also helps break tackles and hold onto the ball when being hit.

Get your strength high enough, and you'll be throwing bullets as well as making all the high-agility finesse pass-rushers look pretty stupid.

actually QB strength is halved when it comes to rushing ability. A qb with 80 strength is actually calculated at 40 strength when rushing and being sacked so he doesn't break tackles well.

Originally posted by finsncanes
Important but also overrated sometimes. imo strength should kind of match your receivers catching ability. 48 strength is good enough into the late level 30s and 30-40 strength works fine in lower levels. On deep passes, I'm pretty sure strength has a direct affect on pass accuracy, but people read to much into that and crank their strength up to 60 way earlier than necessary. My QB didn't have more than 48 strength up to level 38 and threw deep passes very well.

High strength has nothing to do with WR catching ability. WR drop passes at the same rate with a QB with high strength as they do with one with low strength. Low level WR just drop passes.

Originally posted by Ilok
actually QB strength is halved when it comes to rushing ability. A qb with 80 strength is actually calculated at 40 strength when rushing and being sacked so he doesn't break tackles well.

Wrong. Only when being sacked.

Originally posted by Ilok
High strength has nothing to do with WR catching ability. WR drop passes at the same rate with a QB with high strength as they do with one with low strength. Low level WR just drop passes.

Wrong. Higher strength equals faster thrown ball, equal harder to catch (and deflect/intercept)

I did a test on high strength and catching and the results were that high strength QBs did not have more dropped passes than low strength QBs. I would love to know where you are getting your information.

As for strength effecting running, I haven't looked at all the changes, but at one point strength effected rushing plays too because QBs were being the juggernaut on rushes up the middle because of the strength bonus so bort halved it. Unless he has changed it without my knowledge, rushing plays are still halved. Again, I would love to know where you are getting your information.

Originally posted by bobbylee1991
Originally posted by Ilok

Originally posted by EagleOtto

Wrong. I'm right and you're wrong.



what?

Originally posted by Ilok
I did a test on high strength and catching and the results were that high strength QBs did not have more dropped passes than low strength QBs. I would love to know where you are getting your information.

As for strength effecting running, I haven't looked at all the changes, but at one point strength effected rushing plays too because QBs were being the juggernaut on rushes up the middle because of the strength bonus so bort halved it. Unless he has changed it without my knowledge, rushing plays are still halved. Again, I would love to know where you are getting your information.

I don't have links saved, and can't search, but the half Strength thing has been debunk for awhile now, and just a lot of people passing on bad info, Bort has come out and said the only time Strength is halved is when used in breaking sack tackles.

As for the Strength and Catching issue, personal experiences have pretty much proved it to me, I have had a few very high Strength Qbs in my time. Also its pretty much accepted by most ppl I know that a Receiver needs more vision/catching if they run faster or if the QB throws the ball faster.

My information comes from religiously reading everything Bort posts, and watching on average 3 full game sims per day for the last 10 seasons.

Originally posted by mdp sack attack

STR/THR > THR/VIS > VIS/CON is a good training progression.


This is pretty good advice. Although I like my EQ focus to be in Throwing.

Strength is tied with vision for 2nd most important skill on a QB.

IT DOES NOT MAKE YOUR PASSES HARDER TO CATCH.

What it will do is increase your pass quality SIGNIFICANTLY on medium and long throws, and it will cause the ball to travel faster reducing the chances it gets deflected cause the DBs will have less time to get there.

For those who don't understand the pass quality thing, Bort has explained it before. A QB has a max pass distance based on his strength. If a QB we're to throw a ball that distance, the pass quality would be severly degraded. Think of it like this: 100% pass quality the first 25% of his max distance, 80% pass quality over the 2nd 25% of his max distance, 60% pass quality over the 3rd 25% of his max distance, and 40% pass quality over the final 25% of his max distance. The numbers used in this example are made up, but the sim is set up in a similar fashion.

So, if you have 40 strength, lets say your max pass distance is like 30 yards. That means any pass over 15 yards is going to have a significant downgrade to its pass quality.

Personally, I think pro level QBs should have at least 85 strength.