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The sport is evolving and DEs have pretty insane speeds now. Some I've encountered have speeds of ~ 40. Thus, I feel it is VERY VERY important for an OT of BOTH ends to have lots of agility speed as well. The LT is usually the pass blocking Tackle, but I've seen cases where they line up the fast DE against the RT (as he's usually slower) to get a better matchup.

If a DE has 30-40 speed, then that means he is building at the expense of something else, and the result is lower strength (~40 or so) or tackling. Therefore, if you're an OT, I expect you to have at least 25 or so Agility and about 20 or so Speed. As long as you have strength and blocking to match, then you should have no problem protecting your QB.

Also, having a decent amount of Vision would be good too, as some plays call for the DE to drop into coverage and the CB to blitz. Tackles need to pick up on this so that they don't give up a sack.

Any thoughts?

Very true, in fact many D-ends have 50 or higher speed. In the future most D-end builds will converge to have 50 speed, agility, strength, vision, and tackling because those attributes will cost only 1 point to bring to 50. Offensive tackles don't need to match that kind of speed, but still need to have around 25 speed and agility to handle these edge rushers. Here is my level 18 LT build

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=42216

so speed at 23 or so is good enough for you?

I noticed blocking is all the way up to 70. Does it need to be that high?

Originally posted by she didnt choke on a salad
so speed at 23 or so is good enough for you?

I noticed blocking is all the way up to 70. Does it need to be that high?

Given that it is the only enhanced stat, I figure he's probably got 14-18 points worth of equipment added to his blocking, making the base a more reasonable 56-60

well I'm thinking if the blocking was 60, that's a lot of SPs that could go somewhere else. Unless Blocking is that necessary up in those higher levels.

Actually, it's not really that bad. On my guard I pushed as hard as I could to get up to 50, and now that I 'm there in 6 more levels I'll be pretty close to 56, even if I don't put any more sp into it.

Originally posted by cirtap614
Very true, in fact many D-ends have 50 or higher speed. In the future most D-end builds will converge to have 50 speed, agility, strength, vision, and tackling because those attributes will cost only 1 point to bring to 50. Offensive tackles don't need to match that kind of speed, but still need to have around 25 speed and agility to handle these edge rushers. Here is my level 18 LT build

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=42216
i think your str is to low, would be great if u get it up to at least 55-60 coz any d-man is a match for your OT with that str

Yeah, strength seems to have more impact than blocking, at least as far as pancakes and manhandling the DL.

I think pancakes are one of the most overrated stats. I think DEs focus more on agility and speed so O-Tackles have to do the same. Strength is much more important as a guard and center in my opinion.

Originally posted by Motiak
I think pancakes are one of the most overrated stats. I think DEs focus more on agility and speed so O-Tackles have to do the same. Strength is much more important as a guard and center in my opinion.

DE's that are focusing mainly on speed and agility at the expense of strength are not very effective at all right now IMO. Regardless, if you're going to be playing LOT, then you can't ignore speed and agility, but as of right now strength and blocking are more important in my opinion. Of course it also depends on what type of offense you play on as well.

hmmmm

I got my speed to be around 22 or 23 or so. i think having good agility is good, as that means you can change directions better.

I've seen plays where a super fast DE will back up, run a circle around me, then get a sack.

Pancakes may be somewhat overrated, but they do end up having a morale effect on the opposing DL, and every little bit helps. Our OL this year helped us succeed beyond original expectations and we just happened to be a little pancake happy. But I have seen very successful teams with few pancakes, so its all about what kind of unit you want.

Originally posted by she didnt choke on a salad
so speed at 23 or so is good enough for you?

I noticed blocking is all the way up to 70. Does it need to be that high?

I've never put skill points on speed, agility, or vision. Only trained them so thats why they are around 23-25. You can see where the skill points have gone... blocking, strength, and stamina.
I do have all equipment on blocking, so thats +18. I've always found blocking to be an extremely effective attribute, and with strength its only important to not be outmatched. When that OT touches the DE the play is over, he locks on and they don't get off his block. Strength helps reduce stamina loss, but for OTs I think Blocking is more important. I have guards (Jekyll and Hyde) with 70 strength and 7 on the pancake ability, and my OT with 75 blocking has consistently out-pancaked them every game. So I'm tired of the strength and pancake ability, spent too many skill points on that stuff.

I think you should get your agility, vision, and confidence up. Also, how come you have hardly and RUN BLOCK SPECIAL ABILITES?