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Pagypie
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I've been thinking a lot about how to maximize forced fumbles but reducing missed tackles and thought I'd share a few ideas for feedback.

-Tactics: playing on the power tackling mode
-Power Tackler VA

Now the question becomes: would it make sense to use a 5% make tackle chance AEQ piece -or- a 5% forced fumble AEQ piece?

The hope is to offset the risk of using the power tackling tactic... instead of a make tackle chance AEQ piece, would the wrap up tackling SA also counter the missed tackles from using the power tactic?
 
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Originally posted by Pagypie
I've been thinking a lot about how to maximize forced fumbles but reducing missed tackles and thought I'd share a few ideas for feedback.

-Tactics: playing on the power tackling mode
-Power Tackler VA

Now the question becomes: would it make sense to use a 5% make tackle chance AEQ piece -or- a 5% forced fumble AEQ piece?

The hope is to offset the risk of using the power tackling tactic... instead of a make tackle chance AEQ piece, would the wrap up tackling SA also counter the missed tackles from using the power tactic?


Closing Speed AEQ (What i got)
Monster/Big Hit AEQ
Power Tackler VA
Sure Tackler VA

Closing Speed will help with his speed
Moster/Big Hit +FF's
Power Tackler +FF's
Sure Tackler +Chance of Tackles
This is what i'm going for with my SS
Edited by Marvel on Sep 21, 2009 12:14:51
 
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Originally posted by Pagypie
I've been thinking a lot about how to maximize forced fumbles but reducing missed tackles and thought I'd share a few ideas for feedback.

-Tactics: playing on the power tackling mode
-Power Tackler VA

Now the question becomes: would it make sense to use a 5% make tackle chance AEQ piece -or- a 5% forced fumble AEQ piece?

The hope is to offset the risk of using the power tackling tactic... instead of a make tackle chance AEQ piece, would the wrap up tackling SA also counter the missed tackles from using the power tactic?


wrap up tackle helps. Which AEQ to choose, I don't know. I have a make tackle change at i think 19% now. I took it cuz it came with +3 vision.

I'm usually on power tackling, though sometimes on balanced. It's worked well for me up to this point. missed tackles rose slightly this season, but i think i corrected that now (invested in a bit of wrap up tackle + confidence).
 
Bladnach
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wrap up tackle, diving tackle SA will help reduce some missed tackles while playin on power. Also, sure tackler VA and David Vs. Goliath helps but read the VA carefully first
 
adeepercut2k
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How important is strength compared to tackle when it comes to miss tackles and forced fumbles?

I imagine it's important if you are going up against a power runner. I know it's important to prevent the push back on a tackle.

What's the difference going to be: 80 tackle/40 strength, 60/60, or 70/50?
Which will miss more tackles? Which can use the power tackle setting more effectively?

And for a FF build, which is more important, vision or agility? Again, would you go 60 vision/ 68 agility, or both hit the 68 cap?
Super Vision or Change Direction for a FF build.
 
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Originally posted by adeepercut2k

And for a FF build, which is more important, vision or agility? Again, would you go 60 vision/ 68 agility, or both hit the 68 cap?


Don't know about the rest but I do know Underdogs'(s) (i have no idea how to make a word ending in "s" possessive) SS had really low vision for his level but his agility was high and he could force a good number of fumbles. However, I don't know what his level of competition was. So, definitely 68 agility over 68 vision for purely forcing fumbles.

Originally posted by adeepercut2k

Super Vision or Change Direction for a FF build.


Again, for purely forcing fumbles, Change Direction is probably better because it gets you in better position and maintains your velocity better. However, I know Underdogs'(s) SS had lots of Super Vision too. So I'm not exactly sure where that puts you.
 
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Thanks for the reply.
 


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