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I knew people were complaining that the MVP stuff was messed up, but holy crap I had no idea just how stupid it was.

In the USAPL East, Paul Blake finished #7 in the Offensive MVP race... perhaps if this were season 2 or 3 that might be okay. But this season -

1. Blake had the 7th worst completion % in USAPL. Among QBs with at least 20 pass attempts per game, he was actually the 4th worst in the league.
2. He threw the most INTs of any non-CPU QB in the league. Heck the QB of a team that gutted during the season still had 5 fewer than him!
3. He ranked 23rd in the league in passing TDs. There are only 32 starting QBs and some of them share duties...

Yet he was 7th in the Eastern Conference Offensive MVP race? Seriously?

Oh, and congrats to all of the MVP race winners. Well done.

lol that's ok my QB won MVP in the East - on an 8-8 team. tbh, he wasn't even the most valuable offensive player on his team (Balls Deep was).

MVP is definitely skewed although I do believe Whitehead deserved defensive MVP. I wonder if any agent has ever had two MVP's in two different conferences in one pro league before? *pretends to pat his self on back*

Originally posted by thehazyone
lol that's ok my QB won MVP in the East - on an 8-8 team. tbh, he wasn't even the most valuable offensive player on his team (Balls Deep was).

MVP is definitely skewed although I do believe Whitehead deserved defensive MVP. I wonder if any agent has ever had two MVP's in two different conferences in one pro league before? *pretends to pat his self on back*

Yea I saw where your QB moved into first in the East. Didn't really look at what he did or didn't do... but Blake finishing so high just got my attention in a WTF? kind of way...

Congrats on the MVPs hazy.

he had a good season, but definitely not what I would call MVP like - he'll be going to the Wolfpack next season, should be interesting - of course with us losing Street (and Partlow) we'll naturally have to pass more.

LOL nice thread title by me... insert fail apparently.

Originally posted by thehazyone
he had a good season, but definitely not what I would call MVP like - he'll be going to the Wolfpack next season, should be interesting - of course with us losing Street (and Partlow) we'll naturally have to pass more.

I'm sure you guys will be just fine LOL

Originally posted by CTap
I knew people were complaining that the MVP stuff was messed up, but holy crap I had no idea just how stupid it was.

In the USAPL East, Paul Blake finished #7 in the Offensive MVP race... perhaps if this were season 2 or 3 that might be okay. But this season -

1. Blake had the 7th worst completion % in USAPL. Among QBs with at least 20 pass attempts per game, he was actually the 4th worst in the league.
2. He threw the most INTs of any non-CPU QB in the league. Heck the QB of a team that gutted during the season still had 5 fewer than him!
3. He ranked 23rd in the league in passing TDs. There are only 32 starting QBs and some of them share duties...

Yet he was 7th in the Eastern Conference Offensive MVP race? Seriously?

Oh, and congrats to all of the MVP race winners. Well done.



MVP race isn't about numbers and stats, it's about how valuable a player is to their team in proportion to other players for other teams. You have a completely illogical breakdown of numbers to support your argument for his position as 7th in the rankings. I don't think you understand what MVP truly means, let alone how to argue against the results of it. LOL, another hapless premise for an argument coming from you.

I think the guy who finished 12th in the East should have won (he was 4th in conf QB)


Should have finished ahead of Paul Blake (6th in conference qb)at any rate

my QB beat Ice Cold in MVP standings therefore my QB > Ice Cold. I like this way of thinking.

Bunch of BS is what the MVP race is. It must just look at yards only for QB's. Riverboat Gambler was clearly a better QB on a better Team. But was snubbed by this BS. Also, I couldn't argue against George Street getting it. He deserved it as much or more than RG. No offense to Rackham but I was hoping GLB would go by something other than just yardage..

Rackham vs. Gambler

QB Rating - Gambler + 26.6
Comp. % - Gambler + 1.2%
Yards - Rackham + 1,045
YPG - Rackham + 65.4
Attempts - Rackham + 298
YPA - Gambler + 2
TD's - Gambler + 17
INT's - Tie (Rackham gets the + as he had nearly 300 more pass attempts)

So in the end No one is saying Rackham is a bad QB here. But I am saying that Gambler deserved it more on a better team with a better QB Rating etc. Yes, I am bitching about this!

Originally posted by thehazyone
my QB beat Ice Cold in MVP standings therefore my QB > Ice Cold. I like this way of thinking.

Congrats on the win! I'm happy to see ICE took 3rd in this, but more importantly he secured the big FIVE in consecutive yardage championships!

Originally posted by thehazyone
my QB beat Ice Cold in MVP standings therefore my QB > Ice Cold. I like this way of thinking.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=112174
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=103792

How did he beat our QB out for it?? More close games?\

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
MVP race isn't about numbers and stats, it's about how valuable a player is to their team in proportion to other players for other teams. You have a completely illogical breakdown of numbers to support your argument for his position as 7th in the rankings. I don't think you understand what MVP truly means, let alone how to argue against the results of it. LOL, another hapless premise for an argument coming from you.

You continue to be a complete and utter moron. Not once the past 4 seasons have you done a thing to convince anyone in GLB otherwise. You argue positions that are 100% not supported by fact and then duck and cover when called out on them.

If I hadn't long ago realized that you were clueless I would think it impossible that you actually believe the nonsense that you type. Sadly, you have proven time and time again that you aren't nearly as intelligent as you would have others believe.

#1 in this game, Bort's silly MVP calculation IS largely about numbers. Blake threw it 1,073 times in order to amass 5,440 yards. This yardage total was the factor that put him in the top 10 in the East. Every single QB in the top 10 in the league in Passing Yards finished in the top 10 in his conference's MVP race.

#2 Feel free to show me any valid argument for Blake's value to his team as opposed to other players on other teams.

RE: #2 I know you won't. You can't. As usual, you just make abstract statements for which you have zero actual supporting evidence. Then you run and hide behind the guise of false blanket statements such as "well nobody else comprehends the obvious flaws, so they are not worth discussing" or some such nonsense.

You're actually so incredibly ridiculous now that I think your persona is some sort of caricature of your previous one. It's ALMOST a good act...

126.9 QB Rating, a 14-2 season, and leading the league in TD's doesnt win MVP...

lolmvp...

Originally posted by kadafitcd
Bunch of BS is what the MVP race is. It must just look at yards only for QB's. Riverboat Gambler was clearly a better QB on a better Team. But was snubbed by this BS. Also, I couldn't argue against George Street getting it. He deserved it as much or more than RG. No offense to Rackham but I was hoping GLB would go by something other than just yardage..

Rackham vs. Gambler

QB Rating - Gambler + 26.6
Comp. % - Gambler + 1.2%
Yards - Rackham + 1,045
YPG - Rackham + 65.4
Attempts - Rackham + 298
YPA - Gambler + 2
TD's - Gambler + 17
INT's - Tie (Rackham gets the + as he had nearly 300 more pass attempts)

So in the end No one is saying Rackham is a bad QB here. But I am saying that Gambler deserved it more on a better team with a better QB Rating etc. Yes, I am bitching about this!

Rackham had a great season. I don't really have any issue with him winning it. Maybe he benefited from Bort's calculation a bit, but he certainly deserved to be a top candidate imo...