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risico
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Quick's always active but gives a much smaller bonus. Pass Rusher only activates at certain times and is negated by Pass Blocker, but it gives a ridiculous bonus.

Which is better?
 
Madd_Maxx
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100% Quick...My linemen still get 3rd down sacks regularly and NONE of them have Pass Rusher.
 
mikebd
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Is Pass Blocker Broken? That big of a bonus should be extremely noticable but isn't.
 
direfire
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anyone think of streaky or slow starter instead of quick?
 
jcrewlaw
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Originally posted by direfire
anyone think of streaky or slow starter instead of quick?


I put 15 points into streaky (all at the same time) a few seasons ago with my DE. I thought it would be obvious what games he was getting +5% and which ones he was losing 5%, but it really wasn't. I also thought his stats would be lopsided at least half of the games he was getting the bonus, but they have not been. Of course, all of that may change this season - but if it does, I will wonder if he was really getting +5% to all arttributes.

This is just my observations for one player, so I would hope someone has had a different experience.
 
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Originally posted by jcrewlaw
I put 15 points into streaky (all at the same time) a few seasons ago with my DE. I thought it would be obvious what games he was getting +5% and which ones he was losing 5%, but it really wasn't. I also thought his stats would be lopsided at least half of the games he was getting the bonus, but they have not been. Of course, all of that may change this season - but if it does, I will wonder if he was really getting +5% to all arttributes.

This is just my observations for one player, so I would hope someone has had a different experience.


I experience exactly the same thing with streaky. i could never tell if it was activated or not
 
venomhonda
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I honestly think alot of the VA's are broken. Certain ones you would think should have a huge difference seems to make none
 
Madd_Maxx
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Originally posted by venomhonda
I honestly think alot of the VA's are broken. Certain ones you would think should have a huge difference seems to make none


+1 so it is Quick ftw!
 
Edonidd
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Originally posted by venomhonda
I honestly think alot of the VA's are broken. Certain ones you would think should have a huge difference seems to make none


Yeah, I have a DE who has 125ish strength, and pass rusher should be giving D-Linemen a boost to strength. Pass blocker doesn't give O-Linemen any strength so I should really have a huge advantage on 3rd downs. I don't notice a difference, but that could just be because strength doesn't really do anything for D-Linemen.
 
FatNasty
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Considering that many extol the virtues of Quick, why do I find it so hard to give up 15 VPs for a mere 4.5% bonus?

It's that one step that separates the wheat from the chaff I suppose.
 
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Originally posted by FatNasty
Considering that many extol the virtues of Quick, why do I find it so hard to give up 15 VPs for a mere 4.5% bonus?

It's that one step that separates the wheat from the chaff I suppose.


When you build d-linemen right the bonus is +4.xx which is pretty good, when you think about it.
 
risico
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+4 to an already high agility is pretty good IMO.
 
FatNasty
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Yeah, I know. Putting points in it will still be an exercise in emotional control, for whatever reason, lol.
 
jdros13
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Originally posted by mikebd
Is Pass Blocker Broken? That big of a bonus should be extremely noticable but isn't.


I'm assuming you mean Pass Rusher, but otherwise I feel the same - doesn't work as advertised imo.

Edited by jdros13 on Aug 10, 2009 11:33:48
 
Madd_Maxx
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
When you build d-linemen right the bonus is +4.xx which is pretty good, when you think about it.


absolutely, its another upgrade that is guaranteed to work on every play and doesnt require cash. Its the difference between 106 and 110 agility, and yes, there is a noticeable difference.
 


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