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mizzou16
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I just want to know which mod the owner of Rock Stars is. My money is on Tim Harper.

I find it hard to believe a newb just purchased a team and built the perfect monster. The following was mentioned in one of my team forum threads -

"He has consistently beaten teams that have had lvl advantages on him, meaning he has some perfect gameplanning and and some perfect player builds. He's on a 19 game winning streak and that shit doens't happen by accident. And the number one thing no one has brought up yet, we really don't know who he is. He rolled all of his players on day 44 of season 1, when he bought his new team. He has no other players other than his own. I highly doubt he just started GLB by buying a new team, making a shitload of players, and going undefeated his first go round. So, who knows who he is."

Come clean mystery Cloudwalker. Who are you?
 
VermonToker
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Chuck Norris?

Or Calvin Pace?
 
Cloudwalker
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I am not a mod although I have received a small amount of help from my brother who has played the game since early Season 1. He pointed me in the right direction as far as where to seek advice in the forums and answered any questions I might have.

Most of my knowledge came from extensive research I did reading the various forums before I ever decided to buy a team and create players. When I created my team I knew exactly what direction I was going to go and what type of players I wanted to build so it created a unity in regards to how the team ran.

There is a great guide to creating players in the Newbie Help section that I relied on. The advantage I have over other teams is that I can ensure my players develop the way I want them to while other teams have to work with their agents to do so. The player builds I utilize aren't any big secret, they are based almost solely off of that Newbie section guide. I haven't wasted a lot of points in special abilities either which I personally think makes a big difference.

As for gameplanning, I played quite a bit of football in my day and take an hour every night to review my opponent's past games to figure out any strengths or weaknesses they have and prepare a strategy that will best help my team win.

People have sent me private messages asking me about my player builds and tactics and even though these players are in the same league as me, I have shared this information freely. After the fact of beating them, of course, but I have been very open with pretty much any question that has been asked.

Is that clean enough for you?
 
Rhuin
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I wish that was the case it's uncanny. but, killing people 105-0 will make one want for a reason, or 44-9 in the playoffs to get spanked bigtime the next game, makes one want to find an excuse.

BUt it's more than likely someone studied everything they could get their hands on to make the best team possible first. He's done allot of things with his team that have become obvious to me, allot sooner than I realized, and being a bit to late on the uptake usually means not studying enough soon enough, he studied soon enough.

If he has a dirty secret I am sure he'll tell me to get it off his chest, because he knows I won't spill no beans here to you piranahs :O

I hope you lose Thunder as much as I like his team, and as much as his team challenges us to be better, we would be in the game on Monday if not for him,,,,,,, I am pretty sure. (maybe as sure as the spartans were, but, hey )
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Rhuin
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meh I typed as you posted, your a class act cloud, I hope you enjoy.

"The player builds I utilize aren't any big secret, " was part of my point, research ,, dig deeper and you'll find this. Monkeys started early but learned along the way instead of knowing all we could before hand. And his gameplan this week has me pissed for being so obvious :O


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not to be too much of a dick but if you look at a lot of players builds - their early characters - they are bad haha, even my first few players suffer from this 2 weeks in after doing an assload of reading and question asking i feel i have a great grasp on player development

wife got a DUI so we had to blow $3500 on a lawyer so i dont have the cash i was going to spend to buy a team and do the same thing Cloud has done haha


plus if you look at the level differences - look at them on a real level lmao, a perfectly built lvl 14 will dominate a so-so lvl 20, if your guard put early points in vision instead of stren/blocking to max it out, if your FB is built for power run instead of blocking, ect...

i really wish i had $500 to throw down haha it'd be fun to see if i could backup all my theory crap i got in my head
 
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I really think that special abilities do not take effect until your stats affected ar 50+. The quick cut ability, for instance, will not really take affect until you have 50+ speed and 50+ agility.

Also i think the fact that he can organize his team to 'mesh' perfectly together plays alrage part in his success.

Also, i think momentum is a part of this game, whether it is intentional or not, his players moral are 100... for EVERY game. So they do not make many mistakes.
 
oukurt
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GM - Do you have a link or proof of SAs not kicking in until your attributes are at 50+?

If had the cash I would have done the same thing Cloudwalker did. I am planning on shocking the sim football world in the title game though. Someone has to take down the evil empire.
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FriskyMonkey
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Originally posted by oukurt
GM - Do you have a link or proof of SAs not kicking in until your attributes are at 50+?


ive done some playing around with players (only til lvl 6-9) and ive put minimal (meaning none except custom equipment) into SAs and they perform rather well, i also max out their stats in 1-2 directions

from what i've read, heard, and asked/got answered SAs shouldnt really be touched til you're level 10-12 and even then you should make sure your primary attributes are taken care of first - the SAs use your attributes to determine the benifit, so if you have a C w/40s for stren/blocking and 7 points in the pancake ability he is going to do worse than a C w/65 stren/blocking and 3 points in pancake

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Originally posted by oukurt
GM - Do you have a link or proof of SAs not kicking in until your attributes are at 50+?

If had the cash I would have done the same thing Cloudwalker did. I am planning on shocking the sim football world in the title game though. Someone has to take down the evil empire.


Its going to take a while before the test is complete. but several people i have talked to are testing it out currently

Originally posted by FriskyMonkey


from what i've read, heard, and asked/got answered SAs shouldnt really be touched til you're level 10-12 and even then you should make sure your primary attributes are taken care of first - the SAs use your attributes to determine the benifit, so if you have a C w/40s for stren/blocking and 7 points in the pancake ability he is going to do worse than a C w/65 stren/blocking and 3 points in pancake



Something i think you should live by:
Do not raise your SA above 2 (thats when it starts costing more than 1 skill point to boost it) until you have stats that start costing 2 skill points to boost (thats when your stats hits 50 natural, ie: with no equipment boost.)

I think it also matters the type of player you have. Center is probably the position (besides kicker and punter) where you have the least amount of attributes to boost. The main ones are Strength and Blocking and once you have those pretty high you could boost vision agility and confidence a little. But thats really only recomended, not required. Whearas the FB has to have high Strength, Agility, Blocking, Speed, Vision and Stamina to be effective. If even one of those stats is a little low, your FB will not play as well. So FBs probably shouldn't boost the SA until they are MUCH higher level. But its probably ok for the C to boost his SA at 10-12.
 
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my center has a decent amount in his SA's. (i put appx 1 pt there every early level up), and he's one of the top C's in the league.. I'm still not exactly sure how the whole SA thing plays out.
 


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