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wtf is wrong with glb, lol. Gobblers go 8-8 all season and they win 3 wins in a row, now they are moving into another league that I personally don't think they are ready for.

Amazing game, you did earn it through these 3 huge upsets. But something isn't right and sure this happens in real life, it isn't expected, and upsets happen. But 3 major upsets in a row?

I will give their kicker his props because man has he led that team through the playoffs. 51 yard field goal today? wow....impressive.

I'm just upset just as the skulls where. It sucks that we are going to be around here next season as well, when both our teams have earned it and won 16+ in a row and where #1 undefeated all season, yet we don't move up. It just doesn't seem like everything is right does it? Personally, I feel like we've been ripped off. To go this far undefeated and then go out by a #7 team...it's just not normal. #7 and a #6 in the playoffs, lol. Well, guess next year should be pretty good. Maybe we can try to talk a team into moving down.

Now I may be wrong and the Gobblers could go in the A league and whip some major ass. However, my gut tells me they will go in there and do like other teams do. Go 4-12 or something and be one of the last teams in the league. Whereas if Brawlers, Skulls, or the other few teams that had an amazing season where to go over there, they would do really well. I guess everyone eventually gets moved up in the leagues, even if it takes until we are level 25 each. I feel like the game may be based on a little too much luck. You may be saying I'm a poor sport but I'm REALLY not trying to be. I feel the same as sooner did, amazed. Just when stuff like this happens it's maybe a question that should be asked to bort. Most teams that went undefeated this season have been dropped out, but this dropout was from a team that went 8-8, a wildcard team. Not normal but I'm going to throw props their way for sure, amazing game.

Puzzled. Like I said, anything can happen.
 
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Oh and I really realize that they just started to run their offense game better, but look at 4 games ago, they lost 28-0 against the warbirds. All I'm saying is it seems some of these games are about the luck of the game. You may lose, you may win. That's how it is coded.

Overall, hell of a game, goodluck next season from The Brawlers. We hope you represent our league well.
 
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holy crap



congrats to the winners
 
Mailstrom
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It's all about luck when you finally loss. But when your winning its all about tactics. Can't have it both ways. They obviously had a great game plan against you, like they have had the last few games. Great job Brawlers, go win yourself a Championship.
 
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These playoffs haven't been right through all the leagues. Not complaining because now we might get to play the brawlers. But way to many upsets. We were one play away so I can't complain, but some of these upsets are unexplainable.
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Originally posted by Minnsooner
These playoffs haven't been right through all the leagues. Not complaining because now we might get to play the brawlers. But way to many upsets. We were one play away so I can't complain, but some of these upsets are unexplainable.


I agree. Mailstorm I mean I understand but I mean I trully do not think it was about gameplan. We had the running going for this game, well set, and we haven't ran nearly as much past games. Then our auto adjust was suppose to switch it to pass if things went shaggy, and then when it did we did horrible. I really can't explain this and the Gobblers have won their playoff games because of their field goal kicker. I'm not trully complaining and I will say gl to them. I just feel like something is wrong here...most leagues the #1 teams have been knocked out, it's weird. Maybe the game needs some coding updates.

I have said all along that these games have luck involved, so you can't say that I'm saying that just this game. I actually brought it up when we played the nightmare because we only won by 3 in overtime and that was one hell of a game, even if we would have lost. It just feels like the teams that go to the championship and win, should get trophies. The top 2 in the conference, should move up. That way if say the skulls would have moved to the championship and been #1 still, they would have still moved up, but would have gotten a trophy as well.

We sacked their qb 4 times and our qb threw 3 intereceptions? very very unusual for montana. I'm just going to let it all go because it's just a game, they earned it, it's just hard to understand the game when things happen like this. I'm sure the skulls felt the same way because they had an amazing season too. I guess if things click for you in the playoffs, they click.
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It comes down to one simple thing.

People never adapted and changed their gameplans throughout the season. We won because your gameplan was stale and easy to predict, thats really all it comes down to.

Are you the better team on paper? yup, no question about it.

A lot of the leaders in the regular season are falling because they get stale with their gameplans and get stopped.
 
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Originally posted by flames54
It comes down to one simple thing.

People never adapted and changed their gameplans throughout the season. We won because your gameplan was stale and easy to predict, thats really all it comes down to.

Are you the better team on paper? yup, no question about it.

A lot of the leaders in the regular season are falling because they get stale with their gameplans and get stopped.


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Originally posted by flames54
It comes down to one simple thing.

People never adapted and changed their gameplans throughout the season. We won because your gameplan was stale and easy to predict, thats really all it comes down to.

Are you the better team on paper? yup, no question about it.

A lot of the leaders in the regular season are falling because they get stale with their gameplans and get stopped.


Bullshit, lol. We switched it to running how is it simple? I will admit right now, we've done 50/50 some this season, we've done 70% passing 30% running, I'm not going to keep going into it. If you think we've been mostly passing every game, you're on drugs. Things have just been clicking when we've been passing. The reason we've been passing is we have been using auto adjust lately, well more then usually.

I can agree that teams can read other teams, however there are too many tactics to use in the games for the other team to predict, if the coach is smart. It just didn't click for us this game and we had a bad game.

If you don't mind me asking, be honest, what did you have set? The ONLY reason I'm asking this is because I want to see if you really went strongly against what we set our tactics and how it evened out. If you did a 50/50 or more of a passing defense, than I do think luck played a small factor. I mean I still gave you guys props, you played hell of a game. I would be praising your kicker right now if I where you. 51 field goal and he made every fg he needed to. I can't believe we scored that low. I guess when a team needs to click it sometimes does and that can be the time that counts. All I'm saying is I do believe we as well as the skulls deserved to move up, I think alot of people can agree. Our players have leveled alot higher then your players this season and we've done really well. When you go against the big teams next season I feel like you could be hurting because you will be playing level 19 teams - level 22 teams. Just level up your guys and I'm sure you'll do fine. You're doing something right now and It's working. Keep it up and gl in the championship.

But anyways I'm going to end it with again, goodluck. I'm not trying to be a poor sport and I probably shouldn't have even posted. It's just I'm just surprised and it's a really weird championship game for this league. #6 against a #7 seed when both teams that got knocked out had a undefeated year. It's just weird that's all but things happen.
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my gameplan changed with every game. Some by not as much.
 
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Originally posted by xfrozenxsoulsx
Originally posted by flames54

It comes down to one simple thing.

People never adapted and changed their gameplans throughout the season. We won because your gameplan was stale and easy to predict, thats really all it comes down to.

Are you the better team on paper? yup, no question about it.

A lot of the leaders in the regular season are falling because they get stale with their gameplans and get stopped.


Bullshit, lol. We switched it to running how is it simple? I will admit right now, we've done 50/50 some this season, we've done 70% passing 30% running, I'm not going to keep going into it. If you think we've been mostly passing every game, you're on drugs. Things have just been clicking when we've been passing. The reason we've been passing is we have been using auto adjust lately, well more then usually.

I can agree that teams can read other teams, however there are too many tactics to use in the games for the other team to predict, if the coach is smart. It just didn't click for us this game and we had a bad game.

If you don't mind me asking, be honest, what did you have set? The ONLY reason I'm asking this is because I want to see if you really went strongly against what we set our tactics and how it evened out. If you did a 50/50 or more of a passing defense, than I do think luck played a small factor. I mean I still gave you guys props, you played hell of a game. I would be praising your kicker right now if I where you. 51 field goal and he made every fg he needed to. I can't believe we scored that low. I guess when a team needs to click it sometimes does and that can be the time that counts. All I'm saying is I do believe we as well as the skulls deserved to move up, I think alot of people can agree. Our players have leveled alot higher then your players this season and we've done really well. When you go against the big teams next season I feel like you could be hurting because you will be playing level 19 teams - level 22 teams. Just level up your guys and I'm sure you'll do fine. You're doing something right now and It's working. Keep it up and gl in the championship.


Bullshit?

You have basically the exact same pass / run ratio in each of your last 3 games. You probably only ran inside or outside (I didn't set the gameplan and didn't scout you). So it was damn easy to gameplan you guys. Your gameplan is really really stale changing it by 10% doesn't count.

My Aces used a stale gameplan and went 15-1 in the regular season but in the playoffs we changed it so you can't just go after one part of our game and stop it. We're moving up to AAA now because of the changes we made.

You have to change your gameplan, you can't with the current tactics expect to just run on everybody or just pass on everybody. I know the loss shocked you but the teams that adapted and had the guts to do different things in the playoffs came out with victories.

As for the Skulls you guys went pass heavy when you played tough teams and thats only on a quick glance. With an in depth look I'm sure I could pick you apart unless you changed as well.

Adapt, change, don't show stuff before the playoffs.
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XFrozen,

Regarding not being able to compete in the next level, you may be right, you may be wrong. I have researched the USA A league and remember that leagues 5-8 were new this season, so the teams are equivalent to what is in BBB. A 1-4 however are about 2-3 levels higher. I am hoping we get one of the newer leagues, but we will be competitive no matter where we go.

I understand your regular season arguement about moving up, but shouldn't the teams who planned correctly, trained correctly, and actually won in the playoffs when it matters get the recognition? I know you're not trying to be a sore loser, but it sure as hell is coming off that way.

Also, if you read enough about the game, a team 1-2 levels better than another team can be beat with the proper game plan. This is how real life works as well, ask the Patriots and all of the other dominant teams throughout history who lost in the playoffs. Face it, you got out coached and your ego is blaming everything else rather than just accepting that someone may be smarter than you and put together a great game plan.

Ok, enough ranting, time to go workout the game plan for the Championship
 
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Originally posted by flames54


You have basically the exact same pass / run ratio in each of your last 3 games. You probably only ran inside or outside (I didn't set the gameplan and didn't scout you). So it was damn easy to gameplan you guys. Your gameplan is really really stale changing it by 10% doesn't count.

You have to change your gameplan, you can't with the current tactics expect to just run on everybody or just pass on everybody.


Doesn't really make much sense. Since, one game we did a 70% pass and 30% run, this game we did a 55% run 45% pass with...

inside run 38% outside run 62%
short pass 10% medium 35% 55% long

We always switch up, always. May not switch up a few games here and there, but we never go more then 3 games with the same gameplan (within 10% of eachother). ye can't believe I just showed that but we are going to make alot of changes next season, more gms to do more, etc...It wasn't easy to scout us, obviously, or the skulls.

Sure, you may have out coached us this game, but I really don't think that is the case. I think you went after the passing game when we more so went after the running game.

Here's a big downside, WE DIDN'T FUCKING START BLACK GOLD....ye very dumb move which I regret and we tried to play my hb and he hasn't started since 6+ games...I dunno man just too many things and we just ran into a block and hopefully next season we do the same thing and hopefully, we actually win and go into the championship next season.

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YEA GO GOBBLERS!!!!
 
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It's pretty simple, if the other team has runstopping DTs, they don't have to game plan against the run as heavy. This allows the DE to pass rush on pass heavy teams or stop the outside run if the other team plays heavy run. Thsi also allow for the outside LBs to help more on pass coverage. Your running game is what took you almost undefeated. Unfortunatly in this league, every line man seems to want a pass rushing build, but that's good for running teams.

On the luck note. If you can show me a game where a really underpowered team beat a powerhouse team, you might have something. 2-3 levels can be accounted for in tactic and builds. 4-7 level difference would be the luck thing your talking about. When ever I see a team playing another that is 4-7 under, all i see is 78-0, 110-0,...ect
 
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