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My lv46 LDE is sitting on 112 agility, 72 strength, 75 speed right now. He doesn't do much in pass rush OR containment this season, despite 7-5-9-8 SAs, capped tackling/vision, and 40+ stamina/confidence. Fine, we're 16-0, nothing to complain about this season, but I do have a question...



I expect an opponent to run at me.. a lot.. Would it be wise to invest in strength equipment, and try 94 agility, 90 strength, 75 speed? I don't get pancaked a lot, but I just get shoved out of running plays quite often.



I'm looking to make a quick adjustment, and a second set of equipment intrigued me for this game. Would I just make it worse, dropping to under 100 agility, or is this strength difference going to actually give me an advantage in getting off of the ROT and making a few tackles on the ground?

Oct. O's defEnd (Lv. 46 DE)
Ht/Wt: 6'0", 276lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $27420
Daily Salary: $4950
Skill Points: 2
Training Points: 1
Bonus Tokens: 4
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 991/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 72.22
Speed: 75.16
Agility: 112.19
Jumping: 28.8
Stamina: 37.8
Vision: 51.8
Confidence: 39.8

Football Skills
Blocking: 16.8
Catching: 8
Tackling: 51.16
Throwing: 9
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 9

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Wall: 0
Strong Base: 0
Diving Tackle: 0
Monster Hit: 0

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 7
Change Direction: 5
Shed Blocks: 9
Tunnel Vision: 6
Big Sack: 1

Additional Abilities
Break Through: 4
Veteran Abilities
Heavyweight: 15
Motivational Speaker: 2
Pass Rusher: 9

id go for it. i mean your current setup isnt helping you as either a rusher or containment guy

i think you should try it.

strength DEs work well vs run but you need to get your tackle up too if you're going to commit to containment over pass rush.

With that size/wt ratio, he's got to be thick, so he should have good run stuffing potential. Maybe try containment SAs too?

Not a fact, but my belief, the stronger you are, the less tackling you need.
My 100+ str DE is VERY effective on the run, and is 1st in hurries, somewhere up there in sacks, etc...

You get the idea.
Str helps you in two main ways - Not being backed up (pushed out of the way), and throwing blockers off of you. I have seen my guy make tackles even though he looks to be doubleteamed. Other times, he reverse pancakes the opponents (sometimes 2 or more) and then has a free shot.

If you get your aglity down to the upper 80's, he will still be wuick enough to occassionally get around the end, but more importantly - will be strong enough to go Through the ROT, then still quick enough to get to the QB.

That's my theory and I am sticking with it...

Originally posted by phreek
id go for it. i mean your current setup isnt helping you as either a rusher or containment guy

This is what I've found out this season. I'm not getting pressure despite 112 agility, and I'm just getting shoved out of running plays because of 72 strength.

I made major mistakes on strength, took me forever to bring it to 68 and now I wish I just rushed it to 73 with speed and agility. Oh well, first slowbuild player, keep evolving my build plans.

Anyway thanks...


The containment SAs blow, never seen anything good from any of them. I do have 2 pieces of 'break through' though which I have seen fire despite only having 1 equipped.

Pretty similar to what I've done and am trying to figure out as well. I've just split the EQ between speed and agility. I was going to use next year's boosts to get to 5-5-9-5-1, and then a couple points in vision, too. I've just always used this guy as a backup and never got a good read on what's really going on with him.

Keyon Brown (Lv. 43 DE)

Ht/Wt: 6'2", 279lbs

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 73.64
Speed: 88.64
Agility: 91.64
Jumping: 16.63
Stamina: 42.63
Vision: 49.63
Confidence: 42.63

Football Skills
Blocking: 16.63
Catching: 8
Tackling: 51.64
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Wall: 0
Strong Base: 0
Diving Tackle: 0
Monster Hit: 0

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 3
Change Direction: 3
Shed Blocks: 9
Tunnel Vision: 3
Big Sack: 1

Veteran Abilities
Heavyweight: 15
Motivational Speaker: 3
Pass Rusher: 7

Watch the replays when you switch your DE to a strength build.
You will be able to tie up TEs, Ts & Gs (sometimes 2 at once) and your LBs and SS can pound them when they run.
You "can" get stats as a strong DE, but if you are content on making the team better it is a noble move.
I like what dangriff is saying and am following a similar track for my DE.