hi, i start a K and i want's to know that is the most important strength or vision for a kicker
i all ready have kicking realy high but now what can i train?
i all ready have kicking realy high but now what can i train?
DiMo28
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Vision and strength are of equal importance for a K. Don't let strength be higher than vision though. Confidence is more important than either of those.
matta
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Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.
HULK
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Maybe I'm different, but I think its:
kicking > vision > strength > confidence
Bars don't necessarily mean better performance, people forget that all the time it seems.
kicking > vision > strength > confidence
Bars don't necessarily mean better performance, people forget that all the time it seems.
Jack Del Rio
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Originally posted by matta
Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers scouting bars. It's below agility in importance.
Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers scouting bars. It's below agility in importance.
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Originally posted by matta
Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.
Yes, until you get to a Pro League with mega-dedicated kick returners. At that point the value of Touchbacks is huge.
For Field Goals Str is very over-rated. But a Pro Level Kicker needs to get those Touchbacks...
Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.
Yes, until you get to a Pro League with mega-dedicated kick returners. At that point the value of Touchbacks is huge.
For Field Goals Str is very over-rated. But a Pro Level Kicker needs to get those Touchbacks...
Jim D
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Where does stamina fall in all of this?
Our guy has 9 in this attribute. He's 231/238 on extra points this season and 17/28 on field goals. The 7 missed XPs bother me and if we factor out the six 50+ FG attempts (1/6), he's still only hitting 72%. He's 1/2 form 0-19yds and 8/10 from 20-29 yd. I think these should be automatic.
I need to plan for next season and I don't think it's too late to make this guy better. What advice can I give him?
Strength 62
Vision 54
Confidence 62
Kicking 104
SA
Calm Nerves 7
Big Boot 6
Automatic 5
VA
Soccer Star 7
Our guy has 9 in this attribute. He's 231/238 on extra points this season and 17/28 on field goals. The 7 missed XPs bother me and if we factor out the six 50+ FG attempts (1/6), he's still only hitting 72%. He's 1/2 form 0-19yds and 8/10 from 20-29 yd. I think these should be automatic.
I need to plan for next season and I don't think it's too late to make this guy better. What advice can I give him?
Strength 62
Vision 54
Confidence 62
Kicking 104
SA
Calm Nerves 7
Big Boot 6
Automatic 5
VA
Soccer Star 7
Edited by Jim D on Jul 20, 2009 05:40:46
Edited by Jim D on Jul 20, 2009 05:40:06
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Originally posted by Spielmannsfluch
Originally posted by matta
Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.
Yes, until you get to a Pro League with mega-dedicated kick returners. At that point the value of Touchbacks is huge.
For Field Goals Str is very over-rated. But a Pro Level Kicker needs to get those Touchbacks...
Regardless, you don't need much STR for touchbacks, meanwhile AGL affects both distance and accuracy.
Originally posted by matta
Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.
Yes, until you get to a Pro League with mega-dedicated kick returners. At that point the value of Touchbacks is huge.
For Field Goals Str is very over-rated. But a Pro Level Kicker needs to get those Touchbacks...
Regardless, you don't need much STR for touchbacks, meanwhile AGL affects both distance and accuracy.
Spielmannsfluch
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Originally posted by matta
Originally posted by Spielmannsfluch
Originally posted by matta
Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.
Yes, until you get to a Pro League with mega-dedicated kick returners. At that point the value of Touchbacks is huge.
For Field Goals Str is very over-rated. But a Pro Level Kicker needs to get those Touchbacks...
Regardless, you don't need much STR for touchbacks, meanwhile AGL affects both distance and accuracy.
I thought Agility was accuracy only....Good to know. Where should Agility top out? I have Kicking at 113 with Vis, Con and Str in the low 70's but only 29 Agility - how high should it be taken?
Originally posted by Spielmannsfluch
Originally posted by matta
Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.
Yes, until you get to a Pro League with mega-dedicated kick returners. At that point the value of Touchbacks is huge.
For Field Goals Str is very over-rated. But a Pro Level Kicker needs to get those Touchbacks...
Regardless, you don't need much STR for touchbacks, meanwhile AGL affects both distance and accuracy.
I thought Agility was accuracy only....Good to know. Where should Agility top out? I have Kicking at 113 with Vis, Con and Str in the low 70's but only 29 Agility - how high should it be taken?
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Originally posted by Spielmannsfluch
Originally posted by matta
Originally posted by Spielmannsfluch
Originally posted by matta
Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.
Yes, until you get to a Pro League with mega-dedicated kick returners. At that point the value of Touchbacks is huge.
For Field Goals Str is very over-rated. But a Pro Level Kicker needs to get those Touchbacks...
Regardless, you don't need much STR for touchbacks, meanwhile AGL affects both distance and accuracy.
I thought Agility was accuracy only....Good to know. Where should Agility top out? I have Kicking at 113 with Vis, Con and Str in the low 70's but only 29 Agility - how high should it be taken?
conf is probably a little low. most kickers like to 1st cap agi eventually
Originally posted by matta
Originally posted by Spielmannsfluch
Originally posted by matta
Strength is the most overrated attribute for kickers. It's below agility in importance.
Yes, until you get to a Pro League with mega-dedicated kick returners. At that point the value of Touchbacks is huge.
For Field Goals Str is very over-rated. But a Pro Level Kicker needs to get those Touchbacks...
Regardless, you don't need much STR for touchbacks, meanwhile AGL affects both distance and accuracy.
I thought Agility was accuracy only....Good to know. Where should Agility top out? I have Kicking at 113 with Vis, Con and Str in the low 70's but only 29 Agility - how high should it be taken?
conf is probably a little low. most kickers like to 1st cap agi eventually
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Originally posted by Jim D
Where does stamina fall in all of this?
Our guy has 9 in this attribute. He's 231/238 on extra points this season and 17/28 on field goals. The 7 missed XPs bother me and if we factor out the six 50+ FG attempts (1/6), he's still only hitting 72%. He's 1/2 form 0-19yds and 8/10 from 20-29 yd. I think these should be automatic.
I need to plan for next season and I don't think it's too late to make this guy better. What advice can I give him?
Strength 62
Vision 54
Confidence 62
Kicking 104
SA
Calm Nerves 7
Big Boot 6
Automatic 5
VA
Soccer Star 7
Conf too low, Vision too low
Where does stamina fall in all of this?
Our guy has 9 in this attribute. He's 231/238 on extra points this season and 17/28 on field goals. The 7 missed XPs bother me and if we factor out the six 50+ FG attempts (1/6), he's still only hitting 72%. He's 1/2 form 0-19yds and 8/10 from 20-29 yd. I think these should be automatic.
I need to plan for next season and I don't think it's too late to make this guy better. What advice can I give him?
Strength 62
Vision 54
Confidence 62
Kicking 104
SA
Calm Nerves 7
Big Boot 6
Automatic 5
VA
Soccer Star 7
Conf too low, Vision too low
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Originally posted by HULK
Maybe I'm different, but I think its:
kicking > vision > strength > confidence
Bars don't necessarily mean better performance, people forget that all the time it seems.
confidence is needed for kickers heaps i can't believe u would rate it that low. When attempting a kick u get nervous and hope u can get it right which sometimes can throw u off confidence stops that from happening
Maybe I'm different, but I think its:
kicking > vision > strength > confidence
Bars don't necessarily mean better performance, people forget that all the time it seems.
confidence is needed for kickers heaps i can't believe u would rate it that low. When attempting a kick u get nervous and hope u can get it right which sometimes can throw u off confidence stops that from happening
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