I'm theorizing something on jump catch and I want to check some replays on people that have it 8+ jump catch along with at least softcapped jumping and 60 catching. I'll keep all builds completely confidential, I've done this before with QBs http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1244016 so I'm extremely trust worthy when it comes to build privacy. Just asked anyone on the QB board if you are skeptical.
WizardofWar
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I was attempting that route way back in season 4 or 5...currently have jumping up to approx 60 with SA jump catch at only 3 but I deviated from this plan because:
1) too many other necessary areas to spend valuable sp's on
2) I came to realize that perhaps JUMP catch only really mattered when you had a QB that threw high often. If the QB puts the ball on the numbers (or in the area) than jump catch probably is not that effective. Same "theory" holds for both diving and 1 handed catch also which effectively neuters 3 of the 5 possession SA's.
I have never seen <jumping catch> indicated on any play....ever...nor have I seen <diving> or <1 handed>...NOT SAYING this is not happening in the bort black box...they are just not telling us.
Dont get me wrong, I originally thought it would be a very interesting test but after numerous seasons of speedsters dominating, it was either XXX or get off the pot so I altered my possession path to more of a balanced leaning towards speedster.
Pls keep me updated on your test....I will gladly pm you with build if you want but there is really nothing there that is very insightful, IMO.
1) too many other necessary areas to spend valuable sp's on
2) I came to realize that perhaps JUMP catch only really mattered when you had a QB that threw high often. If the QB puts the ball on the numbers (or in the area) than jump catch probably is not that effective. Same "theory" holds for both diving and 1 handed catch also which effectively neuters 3 of the 5 possession SA's.
I have never seen <jumping catch> indicated on any play....ever...nor have I seen <diving> or <1 handed>...NOT SAYING this is not happening in the bort black box...they are just not telling us.
Dont get me wrong, I originally thought it would be a very interesting test but after numerous seasons of speedsters dominating, it was either XXX or get off the pot so I altered my possession path to more of a balanced leaning towards speedster.
Pls keep me updated on your test....I will gladly pm you with build if you want but there is really nothing there that is very insightful, IMO.
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1138628
doesnt have any SAs but probably has the equivalent in attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 18
Speed: 26.44
Agility: 32.44
Jumping: 93.44 (72 natural)
Stamina: 24.44
Vision: 40.44
Confidence: 21.26
Football Skills
Catching: 68.44
Carrying: 32.26
+20% catching AEQ
doesnt have any SAs but probably has the equivalent in attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 18
Speed: 26.44
Agility: 32.44
Jumping: 93.44 (72 natural)
Stamina: 24.44
Vision: 40.44
Confidence: 21.26
Football Skills
Catching: 68.44
Carrying: 32.26
+20% catching AEQ
Edited by monsterkill on Jul 22, 2009 12:27:30
Edited by monsterkill on Jul 22, 2009 12:27:18
WizardofWar
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Originally posted by notgoing2argue
I've seen jumping catch attempt and diving, but only when it misses.
cool...any chance you saw that this season? If so, could you copy link...Id love to see either one...thx
I've seen jumping catch attempt and diving, but only when it misses.
cool...any chance you saw that this season? If so, could you copy link...Id love to see either one...thx
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I saw jumping catch attempt (and made) stated on the play by play a couple of times in season 9, but both times it was to our HB rather than any of the WR's. So since then I've not spent another point on jumping (at 2nd cap) or jump catch (5) as it doesn't appear to be worth it. I haven't seen it in season 10 at all though.
Edited by Mike1709 on Jul 23, 2009 16:17:08
WizardofWar
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Wow...its amazing how little feedback via the play detail our WR's are actually provided with. Again, I shall post my weekly PLEASE DO AN SA RESET post only to have it ignored as usual!
Ilok
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so the results of my test didn't yield anything. I guess jump catch is just used for high throws and doesn't help WR out roll a CB.
WizardofWar
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Originally posted by Ilok
so the results of my test didn't yield anything. I guess jump catch is just used for high throws and doesn't help WR out roll a CB.
Yeah..we are not knocking you at all....in fact I am VERY VERY interested in your findings. If we are the only group you polled, I dont think there is enough data to conclude anything.
so the results of my test didn't yield anything. I guess jump catch is just used for high throws and doesn't help WR out roll a CB.
Yeah..we are not knocking you at all....in fact I am VERY VERY interested in your findings. If we are the only group you polled, I dont think there is enough data to conclude anything.
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d league - new player (haven't spent any SP tey), but here's a jumping catch. Look at the pass trajectory on th ereplay...What a duck...looked like Sonny Jurgensen
Josh Wheels pass to Adam "I Make It" Wayne up the right side, jumping catch attempt, caught (14.5 yd gain) [tackle: Mel "the MAN" Blount]
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=685093&pbp_id=19900632
Josh Wheels pass to Adam "I Make It" Wayne up the right side, jumping catch attempt, caught (14.5 yd gain) [tackle: Mel "the MAN" Blount]
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=685093&pbp_id=19900632
WizardofWar
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WTF!!! Level 2 triggering jumping catch....VERY VERY interesting. Pass appears to be very lofty which provides some insight.
QB bullet passing may NEVER trigger jump catch as ball may never be thrown high enough to trigger.
Medium is questionable
I believe third setting is lofty which may answer some of our questions as to why we rarely see it fire....if most QB's operate on bullet / medium...there is part of our answer.
QB bullet passing may NEVER trigger jump catch as ball may never be thrown high enough to trigger.
Medium is questionable
I believe third setting is lofty which may answer some of our questions as to why we rarely see it fire....if most QB's operate on bullet / medium...there is part of our answer.
bigg987
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since reading the original post, ive notice this in nearly all the games at Peewee. HB, TE and WR have all had it happen just like in the above example, jumping catch attempt. yet in the higher league where my WR has an AEQ, it has never fired. maybe i will see what our QB was set at.
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Very interesting thread! Ilok, I'd be very interested in your findings. Sign my WR up as one of your guinea pigs. I’m all about sharing info, so here’s what his build will look like at the beginning of next season:
I Got This (Lv. 31 WR)
Physical Attributes
Strength: 32
Speed: 56
Agility: 55
Jumping: 67
Stamina: 33
Vision: 39
Confidence: 26
Football Skills
Catching: 77
Carrying: 30
Possession Receiver Abilities
Route Running: 9
Sticky Hands: 9
Jumping Catch: 9
Veteran Abilities
Possession Receiver: 10
Sure Hands: 4
Build open for a few more days: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=847141
For the record, I have seen zero jump catches on the replays (only have 6 in Jump Catch tho now) but I have seen a TON of missed diving catches. Heh.
I Got This (Lv. 31 WR)
Physical Attributes
Strength: 32
Speed: 56
Agility: 55
Jumping: 67
Stamina: 33
Vision: 39
Confidence: 26
Football Skills
Catching: 77
Carrying: 30
Possession Receiver Abilities
Route Running: 9
Sticky Hands: 9
Jumping Catch: 9
Veteran Abilities
Possession Receiver: 10
Sure Hands: 4
Build open for a few more days: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=847141
For the record, I have seen zero jump catches on the replays (only have 6 in Jump Catch tho now) but I have seen a TON of missed diving catches. Heh.
Edited by shey on Jul 29, 2009 18:08:38
Ilok
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Well my theory was high jumping and high jump catch would beat CBs on pass deflections. I used my own WR, 4 WRs off teams I gm for and a few players on this forum and all had just as many pass deflections against them as lower jump/JC builds.
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