Warrior General Games

Doesn't it make more sence to use the bonus tokens on Bonus Training rather than Upgrading Superior Equipment?

Bonus Training:
Used: 4 bonus tokens
Gain: +1 skill point, and a temporary boost of +5 to one attribute for your player's next game.

Upgrading Superior Equipment:
Used: 8 bonus tokens, and $500 (at first level)
Gain: +1 skill point

This means you would have to collect twice as many bonus tokens (which equals time), in orfer to upgrade equipment, which will yeild the same result, +1 attribute. With Bonus Training 8 tokens would equal 2 skill points, verse the 1 attribute gained with the same 8 tokes used for superior equipment upgrade.
The question is, does the superior equipment upgrade also add anything to the special atribute or other bonus that would usually accompany this type of equipment. What can a player look forward to when upgrading the Superior Equipment, is a larger benifit that I am just not seeing yet?

1 sp added on to your highest atribute which is usually speed, which in my case is equal to 6SP. And thats by adding it before the rest of the equip. not to mention you are usually trying to pair it up with a SA which can get you your "SP value".

or at least this is how i like to think of it, idk.

Originally posted by Harmsway

The question is, does the superior equipment upgrade also add anything to the special atribute or other bonus that would usually accompany this type of equipment. What can a player look forward to when upgrading the Superior Equipment, is a larger benifit that I am just not seeing yet?

If the piece has a special ability or a % increase of some variety, it goes up with upgrades gradually. That's the benefit, not really the attribute gain.

1 Skill Point != 1 Attribute Point

But really, it's the upgrades to the SAs or % bonuses that make it most worthwhile. AEQ with an SA increases the SA every other upgrade. % bonuses go up 2% with each upgrade.

Thank you guys very much for the info. I didn't even think about the fact it would take we more than 1 skill point to add to many of the attribute I would want to work on.

And the true bonus sounds like it comes from the SA or % bonus given at the time of the upgrade.

Thanks for the great information!

I had a post I cant find that broke it down a bit. but if you look at the math. it depends on where in the SA tree an attribute may fall.

without going into it. if you look at any SA tree and factor in one of the SA's to the end of the tree, and how much points you would have to put into it to raise it to lvl 4, for example, and then look at how many tokens it would take to upgrade the same SA in some AEQ to lvl 4 VS using it on the SA. it works out to roughly 5 more points left to spend in an attribute if you go the AEQ route at that lvl.
and it just increases the higher lvl you go.

but if it's an SA at the start of the tree, then it's not as good till you get to a really high lvl also.

+ you get an extra point or two or three in something else usually in a nice piece of AEQ at the higher lvl's as well, which advances also.

math=

I already told him this stuff but he doesnt trust his real life friend,instead he just asks the same question over and over then in a forum .Gets the answer i gave him then doesnt have the balls to do what he wants which is not to spend it on superior equipment.Some times you can show a dog his bone ,but he still sniffs another dogs ass.(just made that up LOL)

Originally posted by Philthathrill
I already told him this stuff but he doesnt trust his real life friend,instead he just asks the same question over and over then in a forum .Gets the answer i gave him then doesnt have the balls to do what he wants which is not to spend it on superior equipment.Some times you can show a dog his bone ,but he still sniffs another dogs ass.(just made that up LOL)

Very interesting

What an ass,
I asked my GM, (Philthathrill) these questions and all he was capable of doing was giving smartass comments, with absolutely no useful information. Thats why I turned to this forum to get the help needed. After my experience with my GM, I fully expected people to be full of it here too, I was heppy to see not everyone has to tear someone apart for asking a question.

Im going to start taping are conversations when i visit you,so i have prof.And it is interesting that i only gave smartass answers having answered more than once!!Who likes my Boobies???

I have a superior doo rag that had +1 Quick Cut SA before an upgrade. After the upgrade it still shows +1 to that SA, it seems that the only benifit was the +1 to a choosen attribute, (for this question/situation I am not concerned with the additional benefit given to attributes, that portion is pretty straight forward).

-I'm not sure exactly how upgrades that include bonus tokens & SAs work. Does it take multiple upgrades to a piece superior equipment to show an improvement to the original +1 given to the SA (such as quick cut)?
-Is there any bonus to an SA after the first upgrade, or any upgrade thereafter, and if so how can a player tell what the benifit was?
-After a few upgrades (using bonus tokens), will the SA ever jump up a lvl?

Every 2 upgrades (16 levels) the SA will go up.