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Hey, I'm thinking about building a CB where I do the following.

3rd Softcap speed-->3rd softcap agility--> 1st cap Jumping ---> 1st cap Catching ---> 1st cap vision -->3rd cap catching --> 3rd cap jumping

heres my thinking: Clearly, you need speed and agility first. You can't cover anyone if you're not keeping up with the receiver. Now, with my first CB, I've noticed that whenever I give a temp boost to jumping it seems to give me more PDs, even when vision was ~15. So getting that to the softcap quickly should help get more PDs. Also, if he has better jumping, maybe it will help make up for a lower vision stat.Then if I can catching up, some of those PDs should turn into INTs. At this point, I'm guessing I'll be around lvl 20 and at this point i'll try to cap vision, then go back and finish those other attributes.

Anyone think this could work?

Unless you are super slowbuilding, 3rd capping speed and agility will take you past level 20. Vision is also much too important to push back for so long and to only softcap. If you are going this route, I'd say go 68 speed, 68 agility, 61 vision, 61 jumping, 61 catching. I still think you should take vision to 68, but if you want to experiment, that's as far off as I'd go.

it is possible to do ...

Originally posted by Granted86
it is possible to do ...

Vague much?

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Originally posted by Granted86

it is possible to do ...

Vague much?


Better than backing everything you say with "I AM THE BEST CORNERBACK EVER!!!"

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024

Originally posted by Granted86


it is possible to do ...

Vague much?


Better than backing everything you say with "I AM THE BEST CORNERBACK EVER!!!"

That would be what UD would say... frequently

Originally posted by wormser1971
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024


Originally posted by Granted86



it is possible to do ...

Vague much?


Better than backing everything you say with "I AM THE BEST CORNERBACK EVER!!!"

That would be what UD would say... frequently

I am UD retard

if you want to do that id think vision is very important to that build specifically, if you cant see the ball you cant catch it. plus jumping > catching from what ive heard.

if its an experiment, stop speed/agi at 61 and pump the other stuff or its gonna take you forever.

UD, first, Granted and I are friends. I was joking with him, not being an ass.

Second, this thread is for BDawg to get feedback on his experimental build. It isn't a thread for you to start an argument. Stop being a child and hijacking every thread I post.

Wormser, I know you dislike UD, but can you not respond to any of his immature posts in here anymore? He's been proven wrong again and again but never fails to use a childish comeback or find other ways to restart the same argument. Ignoring him might just work best.

Originally posted by whatje
if its an experiment, stop speed/agi at 61 and pump the other stuff or its gonna take you forever.

Agreed, Four attributes to third cap will take you forever. Also, I think the low vision will hamper his potential for production.

Nobody's been proven wrong. Just clarifying. lol

Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
Nobody's been proven wrong. Just clarifying. lol

Clarifying what? I made numerous valid arguments for my way of building cbs. He couldn't come up with good responses. I've seen arguments for building cbs based upon the wrs you will be facing and arguments for building cbs to create mismatches. This game doesn't work that way.

First, you can't see the build of the wrs you will be facing. You can scout them and get a general idea of what style of play they favor, but being able to to match up a cb perfectly with a wr who has a similar build doesn't work.

Second, you can only create mismatches by creating a better overall build, not pushing one attribute higher and expecting it to work out. By pushing speed to 100, you sacrifice something else. I'm not going through all the arguments for why speed that high isn't worth it again, but it isn't. Especially if your agility is at 70, like UD espouses.

There were arguments that cbs should be built based on what their DC wants. There are a lot of reasons not to do this. First, you might not want to always play on that team. Very few teams reach 10 seasons, so building your cb for one DC doesn't make sense. Second, your DC might not know what he is doing. Third, (unless you are running zone), there is still a general build that works best in all positions.

Unfortunately, the mechanics of this game have made it so that there is a build that, within certain parameters, is better than the rest. You can build a cb who will shut down fast wrs, agile wrs, strength wrs, can break wr blocks, and helps in the run game (though he shouldn't have to much). Whether you are referring to Asante, A.L. Higgenbottom, Sandesh, Yes Man, or any other top cb, they all have similar builds. That is the build that I am trying to help new cb builders attain.

I won't ever give out exact build info for any of those cbs, but I will guide agents on the right track if they ask. UD, on the other hand, tells agents to build their cbs like he thinks works, even though he has no actual proof that it does. I refer to the best cbs in the game, winners of multiple Pro individual and team trophies, while he refers to his three level 37 cbs with their BBB trophies. He then proceeds to insult anyone who disagrees with him regardless of how good their arguments are. Daddy, you aren't an asshole like UD is, you seem like a good guy (or girl), but you don't have near as much experience in this game as I and many other cb builders do. I like that you want to help people, but please try and gain more knowledge before you give out information based upon what has allowed your level 26 cb to succeed. You make valid arguments if this were real football or a game like Madden, but it isn't; this is Bortball, and logic doesn't always compute.

/rant

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by wormser1971

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by Longhornfan1024



Originally posted by Granted86




it is possible to do ...

Vague much?


Better than backing everything you say with "I AM THE BEST CORNERBACK EVER!!!"

That would be what UD would say... frequently

I am UD retard

This was pretty funny

I read that whole thing and what I took from it was this:
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
I know what makes the best CB because I've built a high level CB and seen other high level CBs' builds.

It just doesn't work for me.
In 7 seasons we'll be playing almost a completely different game, judging by what's occurred during the 7 seasons I've played.
There's no determining whether your build and that of your peers (assuming it is the same among all of them) will be obsolete or still work well.

My argument isn't that 100 speed and 70 agility is better than 95 speed and 85 agility or 90 speed and 90 agility or any other variant. My argument is that many builds are capable of meeting some goal as a CB.
I don't think you could convince me that you have the "best CB" or the "best CB build."
It isn't as simple as having the most PDs, or the most INTs, or the most FFums among other CBs in your league.

I think that assuming that because you've had success you can define the sole method of being successful is foolish.