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Matt Cline #8
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im sorry im getting tired of all these other QBs calling them dual threats but they cant put up stats in each category means you put up numbers in passing and rushing

now last season my guy was doing good he was putting up huge numbers running and throwing then the owner got banned and so the team went CPU it sucked really bad so he was lvl 25 starting on a lvl 28 cap team but it was near the end of the season so he was lvl 25 starting on a lvl 34 team thats were the lvls were at he didnt do so well still got 100 yards rushing on 25 carrrys and fumbled alot
but this season i have got my self on a 28 cap team and

so far 2 scrim. games well one we lost 39-16 my QB went 10/16 63 yards 0 tds 0 ints
rushed 12 for 80 yards

1st. scrim. my qb went 7/9 for 154 yards and 1 TD
then rushed 3 for 31 yards

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Terrelle The Freak Pryor #2
lvl 27
Attributes
Strength: 41.8
Speed: 83.9
Agility: 48.9
Stamina: 21.8
Vision: 50.8
Confidence: 37.8
Throwing: 53.8
Carrying: 27.9


Scrambler Abilities
On The Run: 2
Dump Pass: 2
Quick Cut: 3
Stiff Arm: 2
Demoralize: 1


Last Season Stats
164 /369 44.4 % comp. 1,391 yards 19tds 6ints

rushing 361 att. 3,118 yards 8.6 avg. 24 TDs

the only problem im having and fixing is fumbles his carrying is too low im well aware So carrying is going up
Edited by matt cline the next chad johnson on Jun 18, 2009 11:57:29
 
Nuge20
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lol, he sucks at throwing tbh...not a duel threat. Falco is a better duel threat by far but doesnt throw because he sucks as well.
 
Ilok
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There is no way to make a true duel threat QB. Not enough sps or equipment points to focus over 6 attributes, with both throwing and speed needing to be close to 100 with all others needing to be 60+ to be effective.
 
Matt Cline #8
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Originally posted by Nuge20
lol, he sucks at throwing tbh...not a duel threat. Falco is a better duel threat by far but doesnt throw because he sucks as well.


hes pretty good at throwing for the lvl he is on
but yeah your QB looks sweet whats his build look like ? and why doesnt he pass more his passing bar is like a 59
 
Matt Cline #8
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Originally posted by Ilok
There is no way to make a true duel threat QB. Not enough sps or equipment points to focus over 6 attributes, with both throwing and speed needing to be close to 100 with all others needing to be 60+ to be effective.


yeah i kno but you can make one that will preform both ways
like on my team if the qb has to throw a lot one game then he will he does an ok job better then are pure passing qb which is very sad lol

but i wish you could get speed and throwing to 100 that would be sick nasty
 
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Originally posted by Ilok
There is no way to make a true duel threat QB. Not enough sps or equipment points to focus over 6 attributes, with both throwing and speed needing to be close to 100 with all others needing to be 60+ to be effective.


Are you retarded?
There's plenty of good dual threat QB's
Just because your too stupid to make one doesn't mean it's impossible
Sure it's not gonna happen in his first 5-6 seasons
but in the QB's last 4 seasons its more than possible..

I've done the work and this can be done by level 45

68 speed
75 throwing
73 vision
63 strength
55 conf
45ish agility and 35 stamina
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40 agility and 40 stamina

Sure you still need to 2nd cap agility but thats not too bad

No SA's
 
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Originally posted by Meteor53
Originally posted by Ilok

There is no way to make a true duel threat QB. Not enough sps or equipment points to focus over 6 attributes, with both throwing and speed needing to be close to 100 with all others needing to be 60+ to be effective.


Are you retarded?
There's plenty of good dual threat QB's
Just because your too stupid to make one doesn't mean it's impossible
Sure it's not gonna happen in his first 5-6 seasons
but in the QB's last 4 seasons its more than possible..

I've done the work and this can be done by level 45

68 speed
75 throwing
73 vision
63 strength
55 conf
45ish agility and 35 stamina
or
40 agility and 40 stamina

Sure you still need to 2nd cap agility but thats not too bad

No SA's


really?? show me one
 
jbiller
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Being subpar at throwing and rushing at the same time doesn't make you a threat.
 
joshw4288
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It really just creates a QB that is not a threat at all...
 
Ilok
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Originally posted by jbiller
Being subpar at throwing and rushing at the same time doesn't make you a threat.


this is all that needs to be read on this thread
 
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Originally posted by Ilok
There is no way to make a true duel threat QB. Not enough sps or equipment points to focus over 6 attributes, with both throwing and speed needing to be close to 100 with all others needing to be 60+ to be effective.


My QB Jake Plummer is going to be a great dual threat some day. I have it all planed out and he is going to dominate the casuals. Casuals are the only place a dual threat has any value since on normal teams you can have specialized players.
By 40 will have:
Throwing 80
Speed 95 (All equipment)
Strength 65
Vision 55
Agility 50
Confidence 50

Im sacrificing vision thinking that it will just make his throws inconsistent since he wont always pass the vision check but when he does the throw will be okay. I know it is a stretch and that his confidence will need to get to 60 fast (By 45), but I believe he will work


Edited by kingofgod on Jun 19, 2009 00:11:29
 
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Originally posted by matt cline the next chad johnson
im sorry im getting tired of all these other QBs calling them dual threats but they cant put up stats in each category means you put up numbers in passing and rushing

now last season my guy was doing good he was putting up huge numbers running and throwing then the owner got banned and so the team went CPU it sucked really bad so he was lvl 25 starting on a lvl 28 cap team but it was near the end of the season so he was lvl 25 starting on a lvl 34 team thats were the lvls were at he didnt do so well still got 100 yards rushing on 25 carrrys and fumbled alot
but this season i have got my self on a 28 cap team and

so far 2 scrim. games well one we lost 39-16 my QB went 10/16 63 yards 0 tds 0 ints
rushed 12 for 80 yards

1st. scrim. my qb went 7/9 for 154 yards and 1 TD
then rushed 3 for 31 yards

The Real Dual Threat Is Right Here

Terrelle The Freak Pryor #2
lvl 27
Attributes
Strength: 41.8
Speed: 83.9
Agility: 48.9
Stamina: 21.8
Vision: 50.8
Confidence: 37.8
Throwing: 53.8
Carrying: 27.9


Scrambler Abilities
On The Run: 2
Dump Pass: 2
Quick Cut: 3
Stiff Arm: 2
Demoralize: 1


Last Season Stats
164 /369 44.4 % comp. 1,391 yards 19tds 6ints

rushing 361 att. 3,118 yards 8.6 avg. 24 TDs

the only problem im having and fixing is fumbles his carrying is too low im well aware So carrying is going up


If you want him to be a dual threat a true dual threat your not gonna be able to do much with his speed. I say get is Speed to 85 with equipment. and Agility to 60. Everything else into Throwing/Vision/Strength and train Confidence and Stamina from now on.

 
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Originally posted by kingofgod
Originally posted by Ilok

There is no way to make a true duel threat QB. Not enough sps or equipment points to focus over 6 attributes, with both throwing and speed needing to be close to 100 with all others needing to be 60+ to be effective.


My QB Jake Plummer is going to be a great dual threat some day. I have it all planed out and he is going to dominate the casuals. Casuals are the only place a dual threat has any value since on normal teams you can have specialized players.
By 40 will have:
Throwing 80
Speed 95 (All equipment)
Strength 65
Vision 55
Agility 50
Confidence 50

Im sacrificing vision thinking that it will just make his throws inconsistent since he wont always pass the vision check but when he does the throw will be okay. I know it is a stretch and that his confidence will need to get to 60 fast (By 45), but I believe he will work




I don't think you can do it. My LVL 32 Rushing QB has his Throwing Soft cap and his Speed 96 with equipment and Agility 64. I've been focusing him on all rushing. Never will be a passer. But your gonna need twice as many sp's to get all those attributes where you want. Maybe LVL 48.

Most importantly your neglecting carrying. Bort already said carrying is crucial for rushing QB's since he incoded some differences in what it takes to get a qb to run well vs a RB/FB needing the Strength/Carrying. All QB's are strong so he had to do this to keep from everyone of them being power rushers.
 
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Originally posted by MustangLife
Originally posted by kingofgod

Originally posted by Ilok


There is no way to make a true duel threat QB. Not enough sps or equipment points to focus over 6 attributes, with both throwing and speed needing to be close to 100 with all others needing to be 60+ to be effective.


My QB Jake Plummer is going to be a great dual threat some day. I have it all planed out and he is going to dominate the casuals. Casuals are the only place a dual threat has any value since on normal teams you can have specialized players.
By 40 will have:
Throwing 80
Speed 95 (All equipment)
Strength 65
Vision 55
Agility 50
Confidence 50

Im sacrificing vision thinking that it will just make his throws inconsistent since he wont always pass the vision check but when he does the throw will be okay. I know it is a stretch and that his confidence will need to get to 60 fast (By 45), but I believe he will work




I don't think you can do it. My LVL 32 Rushing QB has his Throwing Soft cap and his Speed 96 with equipment and Agility 64. I've been focusing him on all rushing. Never will be a passer. But your gonna need twice as many sp's to get all those attributes where you want. Maybe LVL 48.

Most importantly your neglecting carrying. Bort already said carrying is crucial for rushing QB's since he incoded some differences in what it takes to get a qb to run well vs a RB/FB needing the Strength/Carrying. All QB's are strong so he had to do this to keep from everyone of them being power rushers.


Actually I can.

I am level 23 with 75 natural throwing, auto levels will bring it to 80 by level 40, strength is 61, will go to 65 with auto level, vision is 50, will get to 54 with natural level ups (have an AE point on it). I have 6 skill points saved and I am training speed right now. It will be to 68 by 35, then while pumping speed i will have trained agility and confidence up to high 30's, each will take a couple levels to cap. So by level 40 i will have the numbers I stated.
 
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95 speed / 50 agility is slow. If you want to be fast you need way more agility.

50 confidence is low, don't expect to do much in the playoffs unless carried.

55 Vision is extremely low for a QB. I might not be the biggest fan of Vision right now, but you need 65+ to be effective. Vision doesn't start to fall off until around 70, and it is worth getting it that high.

65 strength isn't that bad, but I highly recommend 70+ when it comes to dealing with Ball Hawk.

80 throwing is subpar.

Where the hell is you carrying?

And you're not mentioning your SAs. Tight Spiral, Pump Fake, and Field General are very important depending on what kind of team you're on. Pocket Presence is pretty nice too. And if you plan on being effective running, getting Quick Cut to 10 would be EXTREMELY helpful.

There is a reason QBs specialize their builds as rushing or throwing, there just aren't enough SPs to go around to be good at everything.
 
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