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Scat Back--

The attributes for a scat back are critical. It takes so much work and its not focusing on 1-3 attributes like a power back, its more like 4-7. The funny thing is, the hardest part is building to satisfy the owner/your perfection. So if your HB fumbles once a game you have to build on something that would change that.

The 3 critical Attributes:

Speed-
It helps...well your speed. It also makes sure you get a good momentum going for down field collision and or juking. If you don't have that extra push going your way it might not turn out to be that 70+ yard TD run. I also think that the speed attribute keeps you in the starting lineup as a halfback . Alot of people say, the build matters, the level doesnt.

Agility-
Now, who all loves acceleration? I do...I mean once you slip that first tackle and have open field you want to get back to hauling ass, and not get chased down because it takes 3 seconds to gain speed. Well, I believe agility is a, yes, critical part in getting your ass out of the backfield and into the secondary. It also helps the quick side of ball carrying, and picking up 10 yards a carry and such.

Carrying-
But who all loves a halfback that fumbles? NOT ME. Makes me mad. Carrying determines whether you drop it, or secure it. It also helps whether you hit the hole, and it helps with how much of a run specialist your HB turns out to be. No more fumbles, better knowledge of running. A better HB tbh.

After soft-capping those above:

Vision-
Nothing makes me cringe more than a halfback that cant cut up when they need to. Or that cant see that powerful SS coming in FAST from the side. Vision fixes that. Ive seen it happen. It helps. Trust me.

Stamina-
Because who loves getting out after every 3 plays? It helps you be on the running and receiving end more.

Catching-
I love a tailback that can catch. atleast have it at 30+.

Blocking-
I'll sit a RB at 3rd string nice and easy if he cant block. Ive done it, its unacceptable, and it makes me....pissed tbh.

Special attributes:

Quick cut
Headfake
First step.


POWERBACKS:

A powerback is my favorite tbh, a runner that sticks his nose right into the numbers of a defender and keeps his feet moving.

The three main attributes are Strength, Carrying, and Agility

Strength:
Well of course strength, you don't want to put a guy with 10 strength on 100 power running in the tactics.
Also, it helps you keep going after first contact instead of completely stopping.

Carrying:
Powerbacks never fumble, it helps them hit the hole and not stop...and gets the defenders on the ground pretty quick if your on the outside with 2 guys to beat.

Agility:
Either HB build you go for, you have to have acceleration and thats what agility brings along with
-speed
-balance

The other three are:
Speed:
either way, it always helps to get into the endzone faster! Get to about 50 by level 22-26

Vision:
if the tackler is bigger your not going to run RIGHT into him...maybe a little head fake or cut WITH contact.

Stamina:
More contact and hard running requires more stamina.

Cap speed by level 25 though--its still a main part in getting into the enzone.
By level 30 you should have strength at 75+ because if you get to play with level 40 teams its not fun.
Also have agility at a constant rise in between levels...

RB shouldn't have to pass block in this game unless something bizarre is happening. With the custom D zones you see in the games keeping a back in to block is depriving yourself of a dump off target when the blitz does come. If the team that the back is on can't get pass blocking done with 5 linemen, a TE and/or a FB you've got gameplanning issues and poor scouting.

On top of that every point you put into blocking means you're wasting a 4 or 5 cap possibility on one of your major attributes. Strength isn't listed at all and you're talking about softcapping the big three. I'm on my second HB right now and at 21st level he's at least 4capped two main attributes.

You don't specify whether or not you're speaking generally or in regards to slowbuilding. It seems like this should be put in the noobs forum to help out players just starting out rather than in here.

Originally posted by ashes
RB shouldn't have to pass block in this game unless something bizarre is happening. With the custom D zones you see in the games keeping a back in to block is depriving yourself of a dump off target when the blitz does come. If the team that the back is on can't get pass blocking done with 5 linemen, a TE and/or a FB you've got gameplanning issues and poor scouting.

On top of that every point you put into blocking means you're wasting a 4 or 5 cap possibility on one of your major attributes. Strength isn't listed at all and you're talking about softcapping the big three. I'm on my second HB right now and at 21st level he's at least 4capped two main attributes.

You don't specify whether or not you're speaking generally or in regards to slowbuilding. It seems like this should be put in the noobs forum to help out players just starting out rather than in here.

Ive seen HB's get bull rushed so much.

This is any building.its just help

I rolled a +1 Stamina +1 Juke for my lvl 16 HB.

I only have ~$40k in the bank, and the equipment is ~$60k

Is juke an effective SA for a speed/agility back? Or should i look for something like quick cut?

yes, juke is good

This is not how to build a good scat back imo.

Originally posted by HULK
This is not how to build a good scat back imo.

Hulk knows scat backs

Giving build advice from your multi? How are you going to sit a back that can't block at 3rd string when you don't own or gm any teams?

Originally posted by HULK
This is not how to build a good scat back imo.

All speed and agility +soft capped catching?

i would think vision to 60 probably would help.

Originally posted by HULK
This is not how to build a good scat back imo.

It's not a good way to build any back, really.

1. Vision is overrated
2. If the back is going out for passes, why the heck would he be blocking
2a Training blocking/Thinking about training block/Making me type something about blocking is a waste
3 Confidence helps with fumbles
4 What team are you gm'ing with your level 1's? You are a gm of 0 teams. Maybe your multi is a gm, but the OP is not.
5 I am excited about your power back post..

Originally posted by whatje
i would think vision to 60 probably would help.

Nope.

Originally posted by HULK
Originally posted by whatje

i would think vision to 60 probably would help.

Nope.


was a random guess anyway,

Originally posted by cowboys28
Because I like helping people out! And if you have any halfback Questions, advice, post here


Who are you to be giving people advice on how to build HBs?

thanks for giving me somethings to think about on how to build my back. I do find it a little strange that people seem to attack anyone who tries to offer a helping hand. Still I guess that is the nature of the internet.