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MustangLife
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Help me throw my next 8 sp's into my lvl 31 CB. The options are listed above.

jumping to 48 and vision to 51 or jumping 43 and vision 54.
 
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jumping
 
mmuhr
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Id put it all in vision personally.
 
Underdawg08
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Jumping doesn't need to be touched until vision is at least 61 to 68 for a corner. I hope that puts things in perspective for you.
 
Granted86
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Jumping doesn't need to be touched until vision is at least 61 to 68 for a corner. I hope that puts things in perspective for you.


not true ...
 
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Originally posted by Granted86
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Jumping doesn't need to be touched until vision is at least 61 to 68 for a corner. I hope that puts things in perspective for you.


not true ...


yeah just drop two words to a post without anything backing you up. way to be.

jumping isn't anywhere close to needed like vision is.
 
mmuhr
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id take vision to 60 before capping jumping.
 
Granted86
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
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Originally posted by UnderDogs


Jumping doesn't need to be touched until vision is at least 61 to 68 for a corner. I hope that puts things in perspective for you.


not true ...


yeah just drop two words to a post without anything backing you up. way to be.

jumping isn't anywhere close to needed like vision is.


you said jumping does not need to be touched until vision is at 61 or 68 ... why is that?

i pumped jumping pretty high on JG BEFORE vision was at 61 and it worked out GREAT for me ... so there is no set order on how things should be done ... i hope that puts things in perspective for you
 
cornerbackX24
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Originally posted by mmuhr
id take vision to 60 before capping jumping.


This.
 
mmuhr
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just for the fact that you have more time to train jumping.
 
Worker 3
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Originally posted by Granted86
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Granted86


Originally posted by UnderDogs



Jumping doesn't need to be touched until vision is at least 61 to 68 for a corner. I hope that puts things in perspective for you.


not true ...


yeah just drop two words to a post without anything backing you up. way to be.

jumping isn't anywhere close to needed like vision is.


you said jumping does not need to be touched until vision is at 61 or 68 ... why is that?

i pumped jumping pretty high on JG BEFORE vision was at 61 and it worked out GREAT for me ... so there is no set order on how things should be done ... i hope that puts things in perspective for you


you'll get better gains by pumping vis up to 60-68, than if you stop vis early and go for jumping. but you are right, you can do just fine by capping jumping early. heck, i did it, and i do very very well. but fact is that i would do even better (may it be only a bit better) if i had just done vis first and then jumping.
 
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Originally posted by Worker 3
Originally posted by Granted86

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by Granted86



Originally posted by UnderDogs




Jumping doesn't need to be touched until vision is at least 61 to 68 for a corner. I hope that puts things in perspective for you.


not true ...


yeah just drop two words to a post without anything backing you up. way to be.

jumping isn't anywhere close to needed like vision is.


you said jumping does not need to be touched until vision is at 61 or 68 ... why is that?

i pumped jumping pretty high on JG BEFORE vision was at 61 and it worked out GREAT for me ... so there is no set order on how things should be done ... i hope that puts things in perspective for you


you'll get better gains by pumping vis up to 60-68, than if you stop vis early and go for jumping. but you are right, you can do just fine by capping jumping early. heck, i did it, and i do very very well. but fact is that i would do even better (may it be only a bit better) if i had just done vis first and then jumping.


you can train vision longer if you cap jumping first ...

as i said there is no SET build on what works best ... it can be different from player to player depending on many factors ... the defense you team plays, your player tactics, and what the rest of your build is like ...

another CB on my team did the opposite (capped vision, then went back to jumping) and it didnt work out as well for him so saying one way works better for sure is speculation ... not a fact
 
Worker 3
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but you will get better gains from taking vision up, than you will if you do jumping. its all a matter of the worth (in SPs) of the natural gains. at 60, 1 point in vision is 3 SPs... taking jumping to softcap, 1 point is worth 2 SPs. And since you'll probably want visions ultimately to get to 68, thats 4 SPs. CBs can stop at soft cap jumping and still be successful. i recommend taking it to 60, but it is not necessary. just like 68 vis is not necessary, you can get away with 60... but the thing is, vision is going to be higher than jumping, and so SP wise, taking vision up first is more cost effective. you get more bang for your buck. and while you are getting vis up, just train jumping to 35 or so, and then it will cost only 13 SPs to get it to cap.
Edited by Worker 3 on May 24, 2009 12:06:25
 
mmuhr
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I agree with Worker...in the end you want vision to be higher than jumping so it makes more sense to take it to 60 first.

Unless you dont want vision to be higher than jumping...
 
Granted86
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Originally posted by mmuhr
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Unless you dont want vision to be higher than jumping...


Interesting concept ...

i love when ppl begin to think "outside of the box"
 
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