which should be higher, or should they be equal?
Forum > Position Talk > D Line Club > Anyone figure out which is better for a pass rushing DE (speed or agility)?
Deezy Frost
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My lvl. 50 is even at 82 and he gets pretty decent results. That is the only DE I have though, so I don't if having a great disparity between the two works or not.
Underdawg08
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they both have their advantages. Speed completely dodges a block. agility sheds it. I think there is a higher chance to shed than dodge one completely so I think agility. Right at this moment in time. Maybe in 2 weeks speed.
PsychoMan
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
they both have their advantages. Speed completely dodges a block. agility sheds it. I think there is a higher chance to shed than dodge one completely so I think agility. Right at this moment in time. Maybe in 2 weeks speed.
yeh i was thinking the same thing after the news about the stun affect .. will go with agility
they both have their advantages. Speed completely dodges a block. agility sheds it. I think there is a higher chance to shed than dodge one completely so I think agility. Right at this moment in time. Maybe in 2 weeks speed.
yeh i was thinking the same thing after the news about the stun affect .. will go with agility
Kayoh
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Before stuns, it was all about speed DEs using the DPC to split out so wide that the OT never touched them. Now with stuns, while the aforementioned strategy is still possible, Agility ends are going to dominate.
Angelo Bruno
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Since the stun is in effect, wouldn't it be better to go with speed and not get touched?
PsychoMan
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Originally posted by Angelo Bruno
Since the stun is in effect, wouldn't it be better to go with speed and not get touched?
when a player breaks a block, and his agility is high enough, he stuns the blocker ... not the other way around. stunning is good for agility based pass rushers, not blockers.
Since the stun is in effect, wouldn't it be better to go with speed and not get touched?
when a player breaks a block, and his agility is high enough, he stuns the blocker ... not the other way around. stunning is good for agility based pass rushers, not blockers.
Jack Del Rio
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You need enough speed to physically cover the distance to the QB before he makes the throw. 70 speed and 200 agility still might not make it there in time, even if you break the block immediately.
Kayoh
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Originally posted by Jack Del Rio
You need enough speed to physically cover the distance to the QB before he makes the throw. 70 speed and 200 agility still might not make it there in time, even if you break the block immediately.
85 speed and 110 agility will, though.
You need enough speed to physically cover the distance to the QB before he makes the throw. 70 speed and 200 agility still might not make it there in time, even if you break the block immediately.
85 speed and 110 agility will, though.
Darren McFadden
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Yea the min amount of speed you need is somewhere between 75 and 85 I guess?
Angelo Bruno
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Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by Angelo Bruno
Since the stun is in effect, wouldn't it be better to go with speed and not get touched?
when a player breaks a block, and his agility is high enough, he stuns the blocker ... not the other way around. stunning is good for agility based pass rushers, not blockers.
Ha, good point.
I wonder what is better at causing a stun, strength or agility?
Maybe a strength and speed guy would do better?
Originally posted by Angelo Bruno
Since the stun is in effect, wouldn't it be better to go with speed and not get touched?
when a player breaks a block, and his agility is high enough, he stuns the blocker ... not the other way around. stunning is good for agility based pass rushers, not blockers.
Ha, good point.
I wonder what is better at causing a stun, strength or agility?
Maybe a strength and speed guy would do better?
PsychoMan
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Originally posted by Angelo Bruno
Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by Angelo Bruno
Since the stun is in effect, wouldn't it be better to go with speed and not get touched?
when a player breaks a block, and his agility is high enough, he stuns the blocker ... not the other way around. stunning is good for agility based pass rushers, not blockers.
Ha, good point.
I wonder what is better at causing a stun, strength or agility?
Maybe a strength and speed guy would do better?
both are used to break the block & once it's broken, strength can cause a reverse pancake and agility can cause a stun
Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by Angelo Bruno
Since the stun is in effect, wouldn't it be better to go with speed and not get touched?
when a player breaks a block, and his agility is high enough, he stuns the blocker ... not the other way around. stunning is good for agility based pass rushers, not blockers.
Ha, good point.
I wonder what is better at causing a stun, strength or agility?
Maybe a strength and speed guy would do better?
both are used to break the block & once it's broken, strength can cause a reverse pancake and agility can cause a stun
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by Angelo Bruno
Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by Angelo Bruno
Since the stun is in effect, wouldn't it be better to go with speed and not get touched?
when a player breaks a block, and his agility is high enough, he stuns the blocker ... not the other way around. stunning is good for agility based pass rushers, not blockers.
Ha, good point.
I wonder what is better at causing a stun, strength or agility?
Maybe a strength and speed guy would do better?
I have a str and speed guy on my team who doesn't do shit. haha.(don't hate on me misled.
)(bah I shouldn't say that he's still young)
But Str is mainly for reverse pancakes.
Agility is for the stun effect.
This is what I have gathered.
Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by Angelo Bruno
Since the stun is in effect, wouldn't it be better to go with speed and not get touched?
when a player breaks a block, and his agility is high enough, he stuns the blocker ... not the other way around. stunning is good for agility based pass rushers, not blockers.
Ha, good point.
I wonder what is better at causing a stun, strength or agility?
Maybe a strength and speed guy would do better?
I have a str and speed guy on my team who doesn't do shit. haha.(don't hate on me misled.
)(bah I shouldn't say that he's still young)But Str is mainly for reverse pancakes.
Agility is for the stun effect.
This is what I have gathered.
Edited by UnderDogs on May 19, 2009 04:16:29
dewatson12
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both str and agi stun when breaking a block
str causes a reverse pancake
agi causes you to swin/rip around the guy
str causes a reverse pancake
agi causes you to swin/rip around the guy
PsychoMan
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Originally posted by dewatson12
both str and agi stun when breaking a block
str causes a reverse pancake
agi causes you to swin/rip around the guy
the swim/rip is what causes the stun
when u break a block, u get a chance to pancake, if htat fails, you get a chance to stun. one uses str, the other uses agil
both str and agi stun when breaking a block
str causes a reverse pancake
agi causes you to swin/rip around the guy
the swim/rip is what causes the stun
when u break a block, u get a chance to pancake, if htat fails, you get a chance to stun. one uses str, the other uses agil
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