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Apparently people have been complaining about the 100-0 games in BBB, and Bort is considering putting caps on how high a level a player can be in BBB. It might mean that we couldn't bring our own high level players to BBB in the future, or our current ones would take a moral hit.

The problem they are trying to solve, lopsided games, will fix itself in a few seasons as the good teams move up and vice versa. I'm upset about this. I suggest people go weigh in:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=249621

Actually I don't mind this. In fact, I wish they had implemented it earlier. Reading thru Bort's comments, you'd be allowed to retain high level players already on the team, you just wouldn't be able to sign new 10+ lvl players. I like that. I don't want to see someone create a juggernaut overnight, I'd prefer they earn it thru player developement.

So, if you have been playing this game for a month now, with players, waiting for a team, you couldn't bring your own players onto a team? If one of my plyers leaves, to join his friends on another team, I couldn't replace him? That makes no sense to me. I wouldn't be able to bring any of my own players here.

And again, what does it solve that a few seasons of teams moving up and down wouldn't?

Why wouldn't you be able to bring your own players to your team? Just plan accordingly and get them before they hit lvl 10 or whatever. Problem solved. In fact, the D-League is the perfect place to do that - get your new toon some snaps, level them up to 9 or so, then sign them to your team. What's the problem? If they're already over the level limit then sign them as soon as you can before a change is made. At least you were given a heads up. As to what it solves .. well, I thought Bort explained that fairly well. No Juggernauts allowed in BBB. Why is that a problem? Odd's are good that you won't be here next season to worry about that anyways, and I don't think there is a limit in the A division.

he is saying as his team continues to play together if one of his level 14 backups leaves he has to replace him with someone level 10 or under and he will lose the two deep roster he has had the whole time. The people most upset about it are the ones who are affected by it right away. I agree that it should be left alone and let the current plan run its course but it wont affect me anyways as i am not going anywhere and neither are 95% of my teammates.

Lot's of people had level 10 players before they were able to get a team. There is a waiting list for teams. All of those people on the list have players that are leveling up every day.

That still doesn't address what to do if one of my players leaves after it passes the cap and I'm not allowed to replace him.

What if one of your friends has a player above the cap and wants to bring him to your team? You can't play with your friends if they are the wrong level?

Since you can't choose the league you buy a team in to suit your players, you need to have flexibility.

Also, we don't have the highest rated players in this league. NY, MM, Chicago, all have higher rated. The top third of the league is pretty similar. Whatever is done, they can't set the caps so that the top third of the league gets penalized.

And again, why can't we just wait a few seasons for the better teams to move up and the worse teams to move down? I still don't get what the problem is that this solves. I mean, if you are going to potentially break up groups of friends, not allow people to use their own players, not allow players to sign with any team they want, there ought to be a really good reason. I just don't see that there is a big problem here that needs to be fixed.

Nike noone is disputing what you are saying i agree with it 100% it should be left alone to work itself out. the problem is the people complaining are the 0-919294 teams who get stomped on every week cause they cant work and get good players to compete. Bort is trying to please everyone and its causing him to make a really bad decision to me. He is saying if you want to buy a team and round up all of your friends family who all have high leveled people than you cannot play in a Lower league. You would have to play AA or higher. It really wont affect any of us to begin with as the level cap is the avg level of players +3 or 4. I would say the avg level of players is like 13 or 14 right now so it would be 16-17 or 17-18 as the cap. As the players in our league continue to go up in level the levelcap will do the same. So just stick with the team you got and yall should be fine.

Hey Nike.... I put a post in there. Check out what you think...

I proposed that if they want to cap the leagues somehow they should do it by capping the sizes of the stadiums which would create a more loose salary cap styled system....

Your stadium can only be so big so you can only draw so much revenue and thus only sign so many big players.... Better teams will be able to charge higher prices though and will still maintain a competitive advantage, etc....

I think IF they're going to do something that this is a better idea...

I think they are trying to make this game mirror the NFL as much as possible 200-0 doesn't happen in the NFL but there is only 32 teams in the NFL. This rules change should not be installed. Just let the chips fall where the fall. It will work itself out over time. If your are getting stomped don't cry to Bort, do work and get some players.

Ooh Payton that's a good idea. Or tweak the attendance in that people will not want to attend BBB games as much as Pro League games, which is pretty much the same thing as you propose.

Yeah I think all this talk is too reactionary to a game that is still in Beta. The tiered system is a good one and people should want to try and win championships and move up in leagues, but everything won't settle out within 2 seasons.

I don't understand the knee-jerk reaction to the issue.

It's not just the teams that have high level players that are causing the blowouts. It's also the lazy/absent owners who played the first half of this season with 90% of their team CPU players.

I think the bigger issue is bringing in ringers right before the trade deadline.
If you had 5 or 6 level 20, or higher, players that you brought in to your team it would seriously impact the playoff picture. If you were good enough to get into the playoffs, with a few additions , you could, in effect buy the championship.

I don't like this suggested method, but I do feel as if something needs to be done in the future. It simply won't be fair to have a league of all lower levels say like 5-7s and then someone signs a lvl 50 HB and he runs over the other teams in the league.

Payton, I think that defeats the point of enabling teams to move up and down. A team that moves up will be be inferior to the other teams in the new league and will likely be sent packing right back down. It would take a few seasons to catch up once you could expand your stadium. And what happens to the team with the now too big stadium? What you are saying is functionally similarly to a salary cap. So I don't support it.

You have too look at how pro soccer leagues do it. If a team sucks, the fans stop showing up, the revenue drops, they can't afford players, they get sent down. If a lower team is riding a wave of momentum, they can add good players, expand the stadium, long before they actually move up. A team like the LA Galaxy can spend cash to get a guy like Beckham to tryin to improve their franchise and league. Rich owners can invest in their teams.

That is all part of the game. And that is why some teams are bad and some are good.

I mean, there were people on the main board thread on this complaining that it wasn't fair that teams who had owners that had more time than them to recruit had better teams. Well shit, if owners who put more time into their teams can't have better teams, what is the point of all this?

nike hit the nail on the head.