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becks_2008
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Throwing: 72
Vision: 51
Strength: 45
Confidence: 33
Stamina: 31
Confidence: 33
Speed: 13
Agility: 13
Pass quality +4%

Pocket Passer Abilities
PP: 2
TS: 1
PF: 1
TS: 1
FG: 1

I see other builds in the same league, that have less attribute points, but way higher QB ratings. Now i wonder if my tactics set wrong:
Play Style: Hard
Passing Style -50 Bullet
Passing Priority: Balanced
Scramble Frequency: Almost Never
HB/FB Dump: Sometimes
Favor Long Pass: No
Throw Away Risk: Medium
No Passing Targets set.

The WR's are under Speed 75/Agility 55....
Any suggestions?

Thank you

 
Kenshinzen
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Yes, remove that bullet. At this lvl no WR can catch your passes!
 
becks_2008
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Thanks for your answer....
+70 lofty ok?
 
Kenshinzen
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not that much. Try +20 for a start.
 
Djinnt
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-10 or -20
Trust me.
Passing priority should be on the left side somewhere too.
 
Kenshinzen
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That's not true sir. My QBs (at these low levels as the OP) have great seasons with the pass priority bar to +20 & the passing style to 0.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1145809
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1158270
 
mgbl3
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Originally posted by Kenshinzen
That's not true sir. My QBs (at these low levels as the OP) have great seasons with the pass priority bar to +20 & the passing style to 0.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1145809
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1158270


Really? I mean...really? Both of those QB's have only played in one competitive game this season. Don't try to play your padded stats as proof.
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by Kenshinzen
That's not true sir. My QBs (at these low levels as the OP) have great seasons with the pass priority bar to +20 & the passing style to 0.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1145809
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1158270


Beyond a certain point, QBs become more adept at throwing the ball far... You know, after they have some throwing, strength and vision under their belt. Your QBs are not a good comparison to his, level 26 and 27 are not like level 19.
 
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Originally posted by mgbl3
Originally posted by Kenshinzen

That's not true sir. My QBs (at these low levels as the OP) have great seasons with the pass priority bar to +20 & the passing style to 0.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1145809
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1158270


Really? I mean...really? Both of those QB's have only played in one competitive game this season. Don't try to play your padded stats as proof.


Whatever! Seems that I don't know what I'm doing....
 
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
-10 or -20
Trust me.
Passing priority should be on the left side somewhere too.


I agree, thats about the sweet spot, if you don't have an experimental QB
 
kingofgod
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
-10 or -20
Trust me.
Passing priority should be on the left side somewhere too.


 
SofaKingNice
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
-10 or -20
Trust me.
Passing priority should be on the left side somewhere too.


Anything to back up this claim? Or is this just pure speculation stated like fact?
 
Djinnt
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My QB is the same level getting 70%+ completion in competitive games. Edit* with these settings. Earlier games resulted in worse results largely due to different settings.
I played around with the sliders and the O tactics. I tried an offense based purely around passing long, and short, to the HB, to receivers who specifically have low catching vs high catching. All of it. I've had quite a few cupcake games so I can see purely how well the QB is passing even to an open receiver, and when you put it too far on bullet low catching guys have more trouble and even high catching guys (69 in this case) they can bobble the ball and get deflected mid catch even when they never do that on lofty.
Passing priority admittedly depends a lot on the defense you're facing. If getting hurried is never a possibility you're safer putting it to the right, but against competition at this level, I find it's better placed on the left.
Even in blowouts I have it set to -50 right now because my QB has good vision and he knows when to let the ball go.
Edited by Daddy Warbucks on May 21, 2009 09:58:01
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=918619
My QB (lv 19):
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 54.2
Speed: 21.6
Agility: 29.6
Jumping: 19.6
Stamina: 34.2
Vision: 61.2
Confidence: 54.2

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 13.6
Tackling: 8
Throwing: 78.2
Carrying: 18.6
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
 
SofaKingNice
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
My QB is the same level getting 70%+ completion in competitive games. Edit* with these settings. Earlier games resulted in worse results largely due to different settings.
I played around with the sliders and the O tactics. I tried an offense based purely around passing long, and short, to the HB, to receivers who specifically have low catching vs high catching. All of it. I've had quite a few cupcake games so I can see purely how well the QB is passing even to an open receiver, and when you put it too far on bullet low catching guys have more trouble and even high catching guys (69 in this case) they can bobble the ball and get deflected mid catch even when they never do that on lofty.
Passing priority admittedly depends a lot on the defense you're facing. If getting hurried is never a possibility you're safer putting it to the right, but against competition at this level, I find it's better placed on the left.
Even in blowouts I have it set to -50 right now because my QB has good vision and he knows when to let the ball go.



First off, level 19 is not an appropriate level to base definitive tactics on. Your build, and your surrounding defenders/wrs builds, are not even close to full enough to make anything that happens with them relevant.

2nd, you've had 1 game with over a 70% completion rate, and it was against a gutted team in a blowout.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/compare_teams.pl?team1=1437&team2=1517
I don't know where you got that number from, lol. In even matchups, you're completion %s are sub 50.

3rd, even if your level/build was relevant, your stats aren't impressive enough to warrant you coming out here and telling people in definitive statements how they should set things, with no reason beyond a "trust me".

Not trying to be a dick, but it bugs me when people like this come out here and make claims like theyre fact, and then you look into their experience and they have no business giving any advice at all. This kind of stuff misleads everyone.

Id personally say that passing bar should be slightly right, and priority either centered, or set on a game by game basis, depending on your opponent's defense. Just an opinion though, and I really have no idea, as Im still experimenting. I've definitely noticed more picks/deflections/drops when passing is on the bullet side, though, and not just on my QBs, but on other teams Im on where this issue has come up.
 
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