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osu1fan2008
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Please give me some advice on where to go next and where to best use VA's. I am currently a punt and kick returner but i am thinking over the remainder of my carrier. Any advise would help. Thanks in advance.

Physical Attributes Football Skills

Strength:64.62Blocking:15.51
Speed:70.21Tackling:7
Agility:54.96Throwing:15.51
Jumping:15.51Catching:34.4
Stamina:41.12Carrying:45.94
Vision:53.79Kicking:10
Confidence:28.29Punting:9

Elusive Back Abilities 22220 Power Back Abilities 24270
 
swimmaboy69
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honestly with your build you should go for a more balanced approach.. I'm assuming this is all with equipment on btw

take speed to 68 agi to 68 and str to 68. catching and carrying are fine. Also I would go for Track Star and Bruiser for your VA's.

Also Quick cut a little higher and First step work wonders you will see a huge difference once your back has 5 in quick cut.
 
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Yes this is what all equiptment on. And thank you for the advise. I did want to make him a more balanced back. I was thinking bruiser but i was not sure which one to go along with it.
 
Bob Miley
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Originally posted by swimmaboy69
honestly with your build you should go for a more balanced approach.. I'm assuming this is all with equipment on btw

take speed to 68 agi to 68 and str to 68. catching and carrying are fine. Also I would go for Track Star and Bruiser for your VA's.

Also Quick cut a little higher and First step work wonders you will see a huge difference once your back has 5 in quick cut.


You are crazy right? Track star is worthless. As is Bruiser unless you are a true power back..
Short yardage monster and Tenacious and later Clutch seem to be the best options I've seen.

Edit - I agree with him on everything else besides the VA's. As soon as you get the chance, get confidence softcapped. I've noticed it affecting a lot of people, I took a look at the summary after a game and my morale was in the 30's after we won.. So it does affect you.
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osu1fan2008
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Ok thank you for your advise, Any more adivce or knowlegde of VA welcomed. I am very little experiance with the Vet abilities.
 
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Originally posted by Bob Miley
Originally posted by swimmaboy69

honestly with your build you should go for a more balanced approach.. I'm assuming this is all with equipment on btw

take speed to 68 agi to 68 and str to 68. catching and carrying are fine. Also I would go for Track Star and Bruiser for your VA's.

Also Quick cut a little higher and First step work wonders you will see a huge difference once your back has 5 in quick cut.


You are crazy right? Track star is worthless. As is Bruiser unless you are a true power back..
Short yardage monster and Tenacious and later Clutch seem to be the best options I've seen.


You may think track star is worthless but if you get it up to say 10 thats about plus 2 to your speed and that is 10 sp's....
My HB has produced very very well consistently. It's also your back you can try what you want but I'm just letting you know whats worked for me...
 
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And i appreciate all the help. The short yardage monster would not work well as being a kick returner either, because it from the LOS. I am building my back but i am just trying to get assistance since i am unaware of what might work best
 
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BloodFarmer
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I gave up trying to guess. I but 10 into Bruiser and 10 into Slippery for my balanced back. I have switched between -50 and 50 on the slider but I really don't see a distinct advantage to either.

I do see a difference in the way he runs but the result have been pretty close to the same.
 
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Well, would help to know what your base stats are on some of those and where you've currently got your EQ located. It LOOKS like you've got base of 64 strength, but I don't know if that has EQ on it or if it's natural.

First thing I see, though... If you've invested that much into the Power Tree(I'm guessing you found an AEQ for Power Through?), I would just as soon say to go ahead and build for a combo back leaning towards power. If you go that route, you'll want to finish taking your base stats of Strength to 68 while training up carrying and confidence, Speed and then Carrying to 60 base and then from there cap Confidence, then double cap Agility, maybe(Might be a good idea to look at Vision later, too. Not sure how much that affects Power backs now, though). After that, pumping the Power Back SAs and getting Power Through to 10 total will help a ton. If you're thinking long term with an eye towards starting or getting regular touches on offense, Bruiser is definitely the main VA you'll want, but it may not be the most useful right now(especially as you can't GET Bruiser without 50 carrying, anyways). Being a return man... SYM may not be the best choice right away, either. Kinda tough to really suggest anything immediately towards this build for VAs, since for a power-orientated build, Bruiser is pretty much ALWAYS the first choice. So... it might actually be a good idea to just get your carrying to 50, so you can grab it first, then go on getting strength to 68, etc. If you want to go this route. Also be a good idea to think about putting most of your EQ on Strength, maybe some on speed.

If you want to focus more towards Speed back(And if 64 Strength is BASE, I'd say that it'd probably just make more sense to go the other way, personally), still getting the hang of this type of build, personally, but I'd say Speed and Agility to 68 first, vision to double cap(At the LEAST), then either cap or double cap carrying and at least cap confidence. Also pumping up the SAs helps a ton for Elusive, as I understand it. Mixed opinions on what's better, but all of them, with the possible exception of First Step(As it only works from a dead stop and is only useful right at the start of the play) are good choices for elusive builds. Spin eventually would help you out if you get carrying a bit higher, as it'll help break tackles. Probably putting most of your EQ into Speed, with at least a little into Agility to get it into the mid 70s or so, at least, would be good. Slippery will work there, either playing on offense or Special teams. Definitely Quick Feet if you get your SAs really high, there. SYM might also be a choice later, if you're getting hit in the backfield a lot.

Attribute VAs don't seem particularly all that useful at this point, anymore, with so many other viable RB VAs. I guess long term it'd probably depend on just what role you end up playing on a team and what kind of offensive scheme your team runs with, as well as what you wanted to go with for your back. For example, Scat Back is another option, if you wind up getting sent on passing routes If you're fine just being a Returner, Return Man and Special Teamer are possibilities... but I wouldn't necessarily say they're the best. I'd say to either get carrying up and grab Bruiser, or if you're that inclined towards a more-speed style build, grab Slippery. For the speed/elusive style build, Quick Feet will also help a LOT if you have a ton invested in SAs.
 
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These are my base stats without Equiptment.

Strength:57.62Blocking:15.51
Speed:61.21Tackling:7
Agility:54.96Throwing:15.51
Jumping:15.51Catching:34.4
Stamina:41.12Carrying:43.94
Vision:54.79Kicking:10
Confidence:28.29Punting:9


I am wanting to be a combo kind of guy that can have the speed to break one but also the power to break tackles.
 


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