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1. Low Tackles but High PD's
2. High Tackles but low PD's?
3. Good Build + 1 and 2

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Your average coverage CB shouldn't have to make a lot of tackles, but he should have plenty of PDs. If he's always blitzing (or run-blitzing) then he's obviously going to have more tackles than PDs. Then you have to look at things like how often he misses tackles, how many sacks/hurries he gets, and how many forced fumbles.

Can't discount special teams play. One of my CBs racked up 2-4 tackles per game on special teams alone. Add in the run-stopping + tackles on other defenders' men, and it becomes tough to do any of those 3. But, yeah, build plus stats plus stats in context would be the way to rate them, imo.

You have to watch games to recognize a good CB, stats dont tell the whole story.

Originally posted by Drs
You have to watch games to recognize a good CB, stats dont tell the whole story.

This

greatest CBs just don't have the ball thrown to them. i'd assume this applies to GLB too.

CBs don't just make tackles on the guy they're covering. My CB has had multiple 3+ tackle games where he tackled players who he wasn't covering, like HBs and TEs

Originally posted by Drs
You have to watch games to recognize a good CB, stats dont tell the whole story.

+1 . . . there are a bunch of ways to make tackles without getting thrown on. Especially if you don't get thrown at much, you can be a good CB while having low PDs and high tackles. You can't really use stats to evaluate CBs . . . mostly build and tape.

Originally posted by psychoG
1. Low Tackles but High PD's
2. High Tackles but low PD's?
3. Good Build + 1 and 2


Hightackles and Low PDs could be good if you get tackles on other guys/special teams and shut down your WR so you never have chances for PDs.

Low tackles but high PDs could be good because you never have to tackle your WR because your always batting it away.

Stats say nothing about a CBs play.

Originally posted by mmuhr
Stats say nothing about a CBs play.

This. Stats can give you a ballpark figure, but you won't know if the CB is actually good or not unless you watch the PBP. The tackles could be on run defense or covering for another CB's mistake, PDs could come from vulturing them in double coverage or failing to catch mis-thrown balls that were thrown right at him.

I'd say low tackles and low PDs, but a high play per game average and 5-10 interceptions per season. This would show the player isn't simply playing on Special Teams, he's depended on to be out there 35-40+ plays a game and he's doing his job. That in my mind is a shut down corner....one who takes his man out of the equation. You wont shut them down all the time, but a few PDs, a few tackles and a few interceptions in a season with a low number of tackles and missed tackles is pretty close to shutdown

But this is a quick look at a CB, and the above suggestions are a better, more indepth way to assess, obviously.

It is odd that a ton of owners still have no clue how to evaluate CBs. My CB is now 3rd string because the other guys get more INTs/PDs. I also can't tell how good my CB really is because the QB throws away from me simply because the other CBs are that bad.

I retired my old CB for flex points as he was one of the few players I had that was not committed to a slow build team, but I always thought he was a decent CB. His stats last season weren't eye boggling, but he did his job very well and averaged 48.4 plays per game.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=766335&playoffs=0

16 games -- 29 tackles -- 4 msd tkl -- 27 PDs -- 7 ints -- 48.4 plays per game

If only flex weren't so damn expensive...