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ThePeter
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So it seems that Ball Hawk is the number 1 VA for CBs.

What comes next? I'm not so confident in Long Reach now that WR's get a VA (Sure Hands) that completely nullifies it (they get +5% each point, we get +3%). I've been looking at Clutch, 3rd Down Stopper, and Show Boat.

Each of these could have a better effect on beating Sure Hands by putting up a constant percentage increase on pass defense. Show Boat could be useful in punishing a WR after a couple of PD's (in each game my own CB has gotten multiple PDs on the same WR, could be useful).

Thought?
 
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Not ball hawk IMO.

The question is what VA after Long Reach.
 
gtjackets1729
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I'm still putting my VA into football genius because 0.5% still seems worth it to me. This raises my vision about 4 points which seems better to me than having a %chance of a %chance of doing something obscure.
 
Maximus1
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I'm leaning that way myself.
 
magicalmrrich
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I've personally gone for 15 in Ball Hawk, 15 in Clutch and 7 in football genius. When I'm done with football genius I will go onto Long Reach...

Reason Ive gone for clutch is because the way the description reads, if you have 15 points in it, you're almost guaranteed to have a bonus to something (problem is, who knows what?) late in the game on 3rd and 4th downs... couple this with Ball Hawk and More and more vision, can only be a good thing. When I get to about level 60 and have long reach in there as well, you may as well not bother passing that way.
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by fallingmercury
Not ball hawk IMO.

The question is what VA after Long Reach.


Not Ball hawk or long reach IMO.
 
HATEMOBSTER
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What do you suggest Under? Jackhammer?
 
Maximus1
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As ineffective as many of the VA's are, I'm starting to wonder if Attributes aren't still the best way to go, even in their gutted state? Especially Football Genius/vision.
 
Pagypie
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yeah i still don't think ballhawk is half as good as people try to make it seem.

but then again i'm outleveled by 10-15levels in my AA league right now and might need the boost anyways
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by HATEMOBSTER
What do you suggest Under? Jackhammer?


I don't know, I just like trolling guys who troll me. personally I like ball hawk and 3rd down stopper.
 
meineymoe
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
<snip>. personally I like ball hawk and 3rd down stopper.


+1

 
greg420
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by HATEMOBSTER

What do you suggest Under? Jackhammer?


I don't know, I just like trolling guys who troll me. personally I like ball hawk and 3rd down stopper.


 
Granted86
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by fallingmercury

Not ball hawk IMO.

The question is what VA after Long Reach.


Not Ball hawk or long reach IMO.


this
 
jonw9
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I went 3rd down stopper.

Since bort admitted Ball Hawk will work 5-6 at the most, I don't think it is really worth it. Long reach seemed to reduce my PDs, so I don't like that one either.
 
mmuhr
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bort lies.
 
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