I understand strength isn't the most important attribute for CBs, I get it. But what is with players who don't even touch strength? I ask all my players to at least softcap strength. It helps bring down those fat-ass powerbacks. But I'm not even saying you have to spend SPs on it. Just train it up to something semi-decent. There is no reason a 50+ defensive player should not have at least 40 strength. It's inexcusable.
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I beg to differ. I'd rather have a CB be able to shut down the opposing team's WRs than bring down their powerbacks. That's what LBs are for.
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Originally posted by LionsLover
I understand strength isn't the most important attribute for CBs, I get it. But what is with players who don't even touch strength? I ask all my players to at least softcap strength. It helps bring down those fat-ass powerbacks. But I'm not even saying you have to spend SPs on it. Just train it up to something semi-decent. There is no reason a 50+ defensive player should not have at least 40 strength. It's inexcusable.
a CBs job is not to tackle PBs thats what you have LB's Safeties and a D Line for
I understand strength isn't the most important attribute for CBs, I get it. But what is with players who don't even touch strength? I ask all my players to at least softcap strength. It helps bring down those fat-ass powerbacks. But I'm not even saying you have to spend SPs on it. Just train it up to something semi-decent. There is no reason a 50+ defensive player should not have at least 40 strength. It's inexcusable.
a CBs job is not to tackle PBs thats what you have LB's Safeties and a D Line for
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There are at least 9 other players on the team who should be making the tackle on such a player.
A corner shouldn't even be touching strength/tackling till the latter part of his career. It is definitely something to put points into... but it is of lower importance than spd/agi/vis/jump/catch
A corner shouldn't even be touching strength/tackling till the latter part of his career. It is definitely something to put points into... but it is of lower importance than spd/agi/vis/jump/catch
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LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
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Originally posted by Granted86
LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
not catching however, nearly useless stat.
LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
not catching however, nearly useless stat.
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Originally posted by Granted86
LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
What? You can't have it both ways? By level 50? And, yes, catching is nearly useless.
LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
What? You can't have it both ways? By level 50? And, yes, catching is nearly useless.
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Originally posted by JD Cuda
Originally posted by Granted86
LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
What? You can't have it both ways? By level 50? And, yes, catching is nearly useless.
I disagreeeee! UnderDogs has STRONG evidence catching is amazing.
But its not too much to ask to have 40 strength by level 50.
Originally posted by Granted86
LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
What? You can't have it both ways? By level 50? And, yes, catching is nearly useless.
I disagreeeee! UnderDogs has STRONG evidence catching is amazing.
But its not too much to ask to have 40 strength by level 50.
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JD Cuda
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Originally posted by mmuhr
Originally posted by JD Cuda
Originally posted by Granted86
LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
What? You can't have it both ways? By level 50? And, yes, catching is nearly useless.
I disagreeeee! UnderDogs has STRONG evidence catching is amazing.
But its not too much to ask to have 40 strength by level 50.
Would it be too much to ask to see this strong evidence? I think it's been referenced before in the CB forums, but I want to make sure I'm thinking about the right thing. I thought that experiment was with low-level players in low-tiered leagues.
Originally posted by JD Cuda
Originally posted by Granted86
LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
What? You can't have it both ways? By level 50? And, yes, catching is nearly useless.
I disagreeeee! UnderDogs has STRONG evidence catching is amazing.
But its not too much to ask to have 40 strength by level 50.
Would it be too much to ask to see this strong evidence? I think it's been referenced before in the CB forums, but I want to make sure I'm thinking about the right thing. I thought that experiment was with low-level players in low-tiered leagues.
JaceBwmn
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your strength is used for other things besides tackling, for instance fighting
a WR for a catch or pushing them out of the way for a PD
a WR for a catch or pushing them out of the way for a PD
mmuhr
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Originally posted by JD Cuda
Originally posted by mmuhr
Originally posted by JD Cuda
Originally posted by Granted86
LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
What? You can't have it both ways? By level 50? And, yes, catching is nearly useless.
I disagreeeee! UnderDogs has STRONG evidence catching is amazing.
But its not too much to ask to have 40 strength by level 50.
Would it be too much to ask to see this strong evidence? I think it's been referenced before in the CB forums, but I want to make sure I'm thinking about the right thing. I thought that experiment was with low-level players in low-tiered leagues.
somewhere in this forum is a thread titled catching>jumping. Read near the end of it
Originally posted by mmuhr
Originally posted by JD Cuda
Originally posted by Granted86
LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
What? You can't have it both ways? By level 50? And, yes, catching is nearly useless.
I disagreeeee! UnderDogs has STRONG evidence catching is amazing.
But its not too much to ask to have 40 strength by level 50.
Would it be too much to ask to see this strong evidence? I think it's been referenced before in the CB forums, but I want to make sure I'm thinking about the right thing. I thought that experiment was with low-level players in low-tiered leagues.
somewhere in this forum is a thread titled catching>jumping. Read near the end of it
JD Cuda
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Originally posted by mmuhr
Originally posted by JD Cuda
Originally posted by mmuhr
Originally posted by JD Cuda
Originally posted by Granted86
LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
What? You can't have it both ways? By level 50? And, yes, catching is nearly useless.
I disagreeeee! UnderDogs has STRONG evidence catching is amazing.
But its not too much to ask to have 40 strength by level 50.
Would it be too much to ask to see this strong evidence? I think it's been referenced before in the CB forums, but I want to make sure I'm thinking about the right thing. I thought that experiment was with low-level players in low-tiered leagues.
somewhere in this forum is a thread titled catching>jumping. Read near the end of it
I just re-read it through and through. Nothing popped out at me near the end.
On p4 http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2217275&page=4 , I saw some posts by UD that seem to be jiving with what this conversation is talking about.
That's with mid-20 level CBs...
Originally posted by JD Cuda
Originally posted by mmuhr
Originally posted by JD Cuda
Originally posted by Granted86
LionsLover is a bad owner for asking his players to sacrifice a key attribute and train strength instead ... 30 ish strength is fine for any CB 50+
the other 18 SP, to get strength to 48 could be better used in confidence, stamina speed, agility, vision jumping and even catching
What? You can't have it both ways? By level 50? And, yes, catching is nearly useless.
I disagreeeee! UnderDogs has STRONG evidence catching is amazing.
But its not too much to ask to have 40 strength by level 50.
Would it be too much to ask to see this strong evidence? I think it's been referenced before in the CB forums, but I want to make sure I'm thinking about the right thing. I thought that experiment was with low-level players in low-tiered leagues.
somewhere in this forum is a thread titled catching>jumping. Read near the end of it
I just re-read it through and through. Nothing popped out at me near the end.
On p4 http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2217275&page=4 , I saw some posts by UD that seem to be jiving with what this conversation is talking about.
That's with mid-20 level CBs...
Granted86
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Originally posted by JaceBwmn
your strength is used for other things besides tackling, for instance fighting
a WR for a catch or pushing them out of the way for a PD
never seen dots push each other out of the way fighting for a catch or PD
example?
your strength is used for other things besides tackling, for instance fighting
a WR for a catch or pushing them out of the way for a PD
never seen dots push each other out of the way fighting for a catch or PD
example?
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It isn't so much "pushing out of the way" as the "Jackhammer effect."
Strength is useful for corners because it can knock the ball loose, but IMO it's not nearly as important (even terms of pass defense) as it is to safeties or linebackers, as ideally when you're a CB you'll be in man coverage and the Jackhammer effect doesn't come into play particularly often.
I would rate strength above confidence and stamina for a CB, but below jumping/catching.
Strength is useful for corners because it can knock the ball loose, but IMO it's not nearly as important (even terms of pass defense) as it is to safeties or linebackers, as ideally when you're a CB you'll be in man coverage and the Jackhammer effect doesn't come into play particularly often.
I would rate strength above confidence and stamina for a CB, but below jumping/catching.
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