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Most of the advice on here says to switch to capping vision and strength after you've 3rd-capped Throwing. Same on "The Attribute Leg" posts over at GLB-Wiki.

My question is why 3rd cap and not 4th (or for that matter, 2nd cap)? Is throwing just not THAT important? If you 4th cap Throwing relatively early, shouldn't the natural leveling gains be able to get it very high while you're pumping vision and strength later on?

Or is it just much more important to get your vision and strength to the 1st cap so that it can start getting some level gains?

3rd cap throwing, soft cap vision, 5th cap throwing & then the rest imo.

Throwing is obviously important, but SA-heavy QBs are generally extremely successful.

What makes QBs different from all other positions is that a QB's success is literally dependent on his team's abilities. If you'd put a level 55 QB in a 13 capped league with a team of level 5 players, he'd be horrible. If you'd put a level 10 QB in a 34 capped league with a great team around him, he'd probably be reasonably successful.

That being said, all of the Pocket Passer SAs don't really help the QB as much as they help his receivers/OL. Pocket Presence and Turn Shoulder both help to compensate for a poor OL. Tight Spiral and Pump Fake help to compensate for a poor receiving corps. Field General helps to make the entire offense better.

I'd honestly say that the optimal QB build involves getting all 5 of those up to 9(+1 from CEQ). That'd cost 134 SPs, which is 27 levels worth. 68-27=41. So you've got up until level 41 to build up your core attributes. That isn't enough time to 4th cap anything, if you want a viable amount of Throwing, Vision, Confidence, Strength, Stamina, and Agility.

Agreed, you can't have everything in 4th cap but throwing is the basic attribute for a non rushing QB.

Originally posted by DMeide
Most of the advice on here says to switch to capping vision and strength after you've 3rd-capped Throwing. Same on "The Attribute Leg" posts over at GLB-Wiki.

My question is why 3rd cap and not 4th (or for that matter, 2nd cap)? Is throwing just not THAT important? If you 4th cap Throwing relatively early, shouldn't the natural leveling gains be able to get it very high while you're pumping vision and strength later on?

Or is it just much more important to get your vision and strength to the 1st cap so that it can start getting some level gains?

I tend to think that you need too many attributes from other places to focus that much on Throwing, when you need strength, confidence, vision, as well as the SAs all at a pretty high level, there is too much to focus on throwing for that long

throwing is your bread and butter attribute, but others are very important. A QB has to have high throwing strength and vision, reasonable confidence and SAs.

It is true that a QB is the most team dependent position in GLB, but regardless of team strength you want to maximize your QB's potential. My QB got the ever living crap kicked out of him last season being on a fairly weak team, but I still feel that he had a pretty good season under the circumstance and not many QBs at the same level would of put up the same numbers on the same team.

I'm a level away from achieving my goal build, which is triple capping the main three attributes, double capping confidence and maxing TS. I still have 4 season of capping SAs, roughly 120 more SPs, before Wally starts declining. The main thing you have to do when building any player is keep with the goal you set out to when you created it. If you will reach your optimal build faster by 4 capping throwing first, then by all means do it.

Originally posted by DMeide
Most of the advice on here says to switch to capping vision and strength after you've 3rd-capped Throwing. Same on "The Attribute Leg" posts over at GLB-Wiki.

My question is why 3rd cap and not 4th (or for that matter, 2nd cap)? Is throwing just not THAT important? If you 4th cap Throwing relatively early, shouldn't the natural leveling gains be able to get it very high while you're pumping vision and strength later on?

Or is it just much more important to get your vision and strength to the 1st cap so that it can start getting some level gains?

Yes natural level gain will be very high. I have a level 25 QB with 99 Throwing because I capped it very early. His vision is at 68 and confidence is around 40. His strength is still low but he was a slow build so by level 32 he should have his strength at 60 vision will be around 70 -72 probably. Throwing will be close to 107 with equipment but not VAs. And confidence will be at 48. After level 32 it will be nothing but SAs for the rest of his career.

Do you really need 68 vision? I think 60 is enough, I think strength is more important than vision.

Originally posted by Bacon Nator
Do you really need 68 vision? I think 60 is enough, I think strength is more important than vision.

This, I think 68 vision is needed but that is all. Strength is much more important