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IMO Hope PBs don't get nerfed,it gives us something to work towards.
Just add the leading receivers for QBs.
For many seasons speed defenses were enough,now the dawn of the PB has arrived speed alone for defenses wont be enough.
For so many seasons speed was the base for nearly every defense,But what defeats speed when going head on ?Power/strength.
IMO I'ts not the powerbacks it's the builds in the interior defense.



Folks recall the Dungys Bucs and the tamp 2 defense used by Dungy's Bucs ?
That defense worked great against speedy and west coast style of offenses,due to the speed of the Bucs defense.
Now when the Bucs faced teams with power running games like at the time the Chiefs and the Steelers Tampa 2 didn't work.
I see it like that in GLB everyone went with Tampa 2 style defense,which opened the door to the PBs,and powerful OLs.
Firm believer builds can overcome.

The PB's are not the problem. It is the O-line domination in the trench battle.

It is also an energy problem. No runningback should be effective past 25-30 carries. You can fix o-line and defensive builds, but neither of those will change the fact that people have ran their powerbacks 50+ times in games with almost no dropoff.

Its not the build itself, though the builds exposed it.

They won't fall forward nearly as far, which was a problem overall.

Plus the blocking was too strong nad LBers were semi-retarded.

They will still be viable builds from what i've seen.

to adress the post above me.

That is getting added too dude. All backs (I'd assume ball carriers too) get theri stamina drained faster.

Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23
No, it is an energy problem. No runningback should be effective past 25-30 carries.

This.

If a team wants to run exclusively, they should need 4 or 5 quality backs on their roster. Anything less and the 90x SIS should fail as the back wears out.

Originally posted by Usama
The PB's are not the problem. It is the O-line domination in the trench battle.

I agree. The bigger problem seems to be how Linebackers just get swallowed up anytime a blocker gets within 5 yards of them. Up the ability of linebackers to shed blocks (with the right build - high agility, good strength, high vision) and you might see a big difference.

Domer

Originally posted by Usama
The PB's are not the problem. It is the O-line domination in the trench battle.

Favor is always on the OL right ? thinking of the sheer numbers and builds of the OL going against the DL.
Normally 5-6(with a TE) vs 4 Dlinemen vs a 4-3 defense, or 3 Dlinemen vs a 3-4 defense.

Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23
It is also an energy problem. No runningback should be effective past 25-30 carries. You can fix o-line and defensive builds, but neither of those will change the fact that people have ran their powerbacks 50+ times in games with almost no dropoff.

+1 This as well.

Domer

Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23
No, it is an energy problem. No runningback should be effective past 25-30 carries.

this

PBs should lose energy faster since than Elusive backs

Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23
It is also an energy problem. No runningback should be effective past 25-30 carries. You can fix o-line and defensive builds, but neither of those will change the fact that people have ran their powerbacks 50+ times in games with almost no dropoff.

depends on the depth of the defense and their stamina,most PBs and HBs get most of their yardage in the 2nd half vs worn out defenses ?

Originally posted by ฿ones
LBers were semi-retarded.

Everything Bones said. I would like to emphasize this since its often over looked.

Originally posted by Usama
The PB's are not the problem. It is the O-line domination in the trench battle.

That's part of it. But the breaking tackles is a huge problem also

Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23
It is also an energy problem. No runningback should be effective past 25-30 carries. You can fix o-line and defensive builds, but neither of those will change the fact that people have ran their powerbacks 50+ times in games with almost no dropoff.

This plus what Bones said - LBs not stepping aggressively into an obvious point of attack right in front of them = Brutal.

Plus, hands up anyone who thinks it makes sense that a PB should be able to break two or three tackles using different techniques all in the same tick...or that consecutive broken tackles within a couple of seconds shouldn't make it really easy to bring him down, due to stamina, balance, and other issues?

Originally posted by seayjoel
Originally posted by Usama

The PB's are not the problem. It is the O-line domination in the trench battle.

That's part of it. But the breaking tackles is a huge problem also

This, however, is not getting changed. Pbacks would not be able to get any big yardage plays without it.

Off-tackle run, break the OLB and then you get a 7 yarder+! Without breaking that tackle semi-often you won't see large gains from Pbacks at all

I'm in favor of a strength nerf for HBs. 80-90+ strength HBs with Bruiser and a ton of SAs are tearing it up just as well as the 100-110+ strength guys with a ton of SAs and bruiser. If you actually raise those strength requirements you'll weed out a lot of people who would only then have "borderline" power backs - they'd have to commit a lot more SP to strength to be able to actually call themselves a power back. Because I get the feeling that once you actually have 110 strength, a ton of SAs, and Bruiser, you kind of deserve to break all those tackles, lol.