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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1381890 -I'm going to test it here instead.

I am going to leave this build open and test out Wall and Strong base with him.

This is dedicated to Bigger Blue.

So I am only going to stop at 68 agility and 68 speed, then pump str to 68. Add tons of wall and strong base. I want to see if he gets sacks then.

Originally posted by tautology

My DE with 11 Strong base and 10 Shed block is pretty much invisible.

AT level 8 I will get all his equipment +8 in speed. and he will have custom +6 speed +1 containment abilities.

I want this to be a complete experiment.

Higher strength tbh, 48 is way too low

Uncertain as to whether you're trying to build a pass rush de or a contain DE, seems like you're going the wrong stats for the SAs..

hahahaha underdogs ... patience is a virtue

around the time his strength is 2nd cap is probably the best to gauge his "success". Are you going to try to find AEQ to get either of the SAs?

Originally posted by Darren McFadden
around the time his strength is 2nd cap is probably the best to gauge his "success". Are you going to try to find AEQ to get either of the SAs?

Horrible test to be honest. I've never said Wall and Strong Base alone will make or break your DE. But I've said, many times, but puppydog ass-sniffer just can't seem to get it, that Wall and Strong base shouldn't be neglected and they help your DE get sacks.

This test is as worthless as someone just pumping First Step and Tunnel Vision and neglect everything else, or pick your favor 2 SAs and neglect everything else. Bort's algorithm on DE makes the owner work harder to get a solid build, i.e. you need a nice combination of stats for your DE to be successful, not just major on a couple here and there and declare something as worthless when you don't see a jump in production.

you should do this. Str to caps first, then agility then speed. Your equipment should favor str and agility or balance between the 3. SA's should be in order of importance shed block,strong base, change direction, tunnel vision. VA's should have heavyweight. The idea is to constantly shed blocks and knock over the OT.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Nv1sion

Uncertain as to whether you're trying to build a pass rush de or a contain DE, seems like you're going the wrong stats for the SAs..

No No...... His sole purpose in life is to build like a sack specialist with wall and strong base. So everyone can see how it will fail miserably.

Are people not even reading what the damn post says?!?!

I read the post it was just unclear whether you wanted to see if a run stuffer could still get sacks, or if you were trying to build a sack specialist with run stuffing SAs

Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by Darren McFadden

around the time his strength is 2nd cap is probably the best to gauge his "success". Are you going to try to find AEQ to get either of the SAs?

Horrible test to be honest. I've never said Wall and Strong Base alone will make or break your DE. But I've said, many times, but puppydog ass-sniffer just can't seem to get it, that Wall and Strong base shouldn't be neglected and they help your DE get sacks.

This test is as worthless as someone just pumping First Step and Tunnel Vision and neglect everything else, or pick your favor 2 SAs and neglect everything else. Bort's algorithm on DE makes the owner work harder to get a solid build, i.e. you need a nice combination of stats for your DE to be successful, not just major on a couple here and there and declare something as worthless when you don't see a jump in production.



No sir you are WRONG again. If Wall and strong Base work to get sacks, THEY WILL WORK.

My level 28 D.E. only has speed and agility and tunnel vision my friend. he got 21 sacks last season.

If they are going to work then they will work. Are you backing out now? I would gladly not build my D.E. this way to save the cash. I would love to take his agility up to 80 first like I always do with ends. But no, For this experiment I am going to stop at 68 speed agility and str. TO prove you wrong. I can gladly open up the level 28 build to show you. IF it's needed.

But this guy will be a wall and strong base guy with 68 each str speed and agility. he will get 0 sacks against good opponents, then we can put this to bed.

Originally posted by Darren McFadden
around the time his strength is 2nd cap is probably the best to gauge his "success". Are you going to try to find AEQ to get either of the SAs?

absolutely. I will get a.e. for both wall and strong base. I will pump them both up to 6 each, add custom to make it 7, then pump the a.e. to 3 a piece so wall and strong base will be 10 each.

Ok if that's the case then just get more agi/spd and tunnel vision on your lvl 28. Never invest in shed block, first step, or change direction and let's see how that works once you get to AA+.

See you don't seem to understand the way a strong base DE works is based off heavyweight, and heavyweight is based off shedding blocks. Hence the build plan I laid out above is the only way you'll find out if it works.

btw wall has nothing to do with getting sacks.

Originally posted by BiggerBlue

This test is as worthless as someone just pumping First Step and Tunnel Vision and neglect everything else, or pick your favor 2 SAs and neglect everything else. Bort's algorithm on DE makes the owner work harder to get a solid build, i.e. you need a nice combination of stats for your DE to be successful, not just major on a couple here and there and declare something as worthless when you don't see a jump in production.


the algorithm again...which you don't know anything specific about. All you're talk boils down to something very basic. It's along the lines of "Pepsi has a recipe!" ...everyone knows that, it isn't shocking, it doesn't help you make Pepsi though.

I'm happy to trade results with anyone who doesn't already "know" everything.

I like "CD" discuss...