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Just rolled a +1 str and +1 Blitz SA, just wondering if anyone had good things to say about the Blitz SA. I'm usually wary of adding SA that are not on the players tree, but since LB SAs suck i'd make an exception. My LB is the primary blitzing LB on the team.

I'd be able to upgrade it immediately to a +4 blitz SA. Right now i'm rolling with a +3 agility SA, so i'd be losing 3 agility in the trade off.
 
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Blitz is extremely good. It is similiar to how Tunnel Vision is for DE's, except it fires %100 of the time
 
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Originally posted by gtthom86
Just rolled a +1 str and +1 Blitz SA, just wondering if anyone had good things to say about the Blitz SA. I'm usually wary of adding SA that are not on the players tree, but since LB SAs suck i'd make an exception. My LB is the primary blitzing LB on the team.

I'd be able to upgrade it immediately to a +4 blitz SA. Right now i'm rolling with a +3 agility SA, so i'd be losing 3 agility in the trade off.


Linebackers s.a's don't suck. you're spouting forum regurgitation vomit.
 
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well then smart guy which pass rusher SA would you invest in? and I ain't regurgitating shit, my knowledge of builds is far above this forum and your attention whoring ass.

 
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Originally posted by gtthom86
well then smart guy which pass rusher SA would you invest in? and I ain't regurgitating shit, my knowledge of builds is far above this forum and your attention whoring ass.



really? then why are you asking here? You know how stupid you look right now?

You say no no I am better than you all, but is this piece good?
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Having no players with the Blitz SA, I have no idea how well it works, hence the question. No threads a few pages back had any info on it either. just seeing if anyone with first hand experience with it could help me out, like joehan.

the my comment above was sarcastic, i don't think your a smart guy or that my knowledge of builds is ultimate.

still waiting to hear which pass rush SA is worth investing in
 
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my crappy lvl 30 LB (first build) doesn't blitz enough to get a real feel for it but he does have +3 Blitz.
And I notice some "rush" to the QB... but he doesn't blitz enough to take advantage of it. He's relegated to backup MLB and will be retired by the end of this season. So whatever that means for you...
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Originally posted by gtthom86
Having no players with the Blitz SA, I have no idea how well it works, hence the question. No threads a few pages back had any info on it either. just seeing if anyone with first hand experience with it could help me out, like joehan.

the my comment above was sarcastic, i don't think your a smart guy or that my knowledge of builds is ultimate.

still waiting to hear which pass rush SA is worth investing in


You are the best, why should I tell you. You know it all remember?
 
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depends on the type of player. shed blocks for a 90 speed, 50 strength LB isn't a good idea, for instance.
 
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Don't bother unless you play against some real slugs. I have +4 Blitz and I blitz almost every down. It's pretty much garbage against a good O-line. Your best bet is getting something +speed and +break block, because even with the agility boost you'll just get stonewalled because LBs never have enough strength to go toe-to-toe with linemen. Only get it if your D-line is good enough to eat up blockers like no tomorrow.

Want proof? Watch my replays from today. Nothing.

Sample: This is what it looks like 95% of the time:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=377761&pbp_id=12656526
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by gtthom86

Just rolled a +1 str and +1 Blitz SA, just wondering if anyone had good things to say about the Blitz SA. I'm usually wary of adding SA that are not on the players tree, but since LB SAs suck i'd make an exception. My LB is the primary blitzing LB on the team.

I'd be able to upgrade it immediately to a +4 blitz SA. Right now i'm rolling with a +3 agility SA, so i'd be losing 3 agility in the trade off.


Linebackers s.a's don't suck. you're spouting forum regurgitation vomit.


Linebacker SA trees are probably the weakest in the whole game. Besides K/P, I can't think of a single player type that doesn't have a "must have" SA like the LB tree does. D-Gen doesn't count because it's only a "must have" for 1/3 of LBs.
 
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Originally posted by mastahyee
Don't bother unless you play against some real slugs. I have +4 Blitz and I blitz almost every down. It's pretty much garbage against a good O-line. Your best bet is getting something +speed and +break block, because even with the agility boost you'll just get stonewalled because LBs never have enough strength to go toe-to-toe with linemen. Only get it if your D-line is good enough to eat up blockers like no tomorrow.

Want proof? Watch my replays from today. Nothing.

Sample: This is what it looks like 95% of the time:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=377761&pbp_id=12656526


Tell me about it. My every down blitzing LB hasn't produced anywhere near his production the last couple seasons. It might not even be strength that's needed, because even HBs seem capable of picking up LB blitzes nearly every down for at least one block (which is almost always enough), despite 99% of them never touching the blocking stat.

Bitch bitch etc.

That said, Blitz is supposedly awesome. Couldn't tell you from personal experience but it sounds like +4 Blitz will pay off more than +3 agility to me, if you're blitzing almost every down.
 
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Originally posted by Blamo
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by gtthom86


Just rolled a +1 str and +1 Blitz SA, just wondering if anyone had good things to say about the Blitz SA. I'm usually wary of adding SA that are not on the players tree, but since LB SAs suck i'd make an exception. My LB is the primary blitzing LB on the team.

I'd be able to upgrade it immediately to a +4 blitz SA. Right now i'm rolling with a +3 agility SA, so i'd be losing 3 agility in the trade off.


Linebackers s.a's don't suck. you're spouting forum regurgitation vomit.


Linebacker SA trees are probably the weakest in the whole game. Besides K/P, I can't think of a single player type that doesn't have a "must have" SA like the LB tree does. D-Gen doesn't count because it's only a "must have" for 1/3 of LBs.


Well you're also preaching 60+ vision for a linebacker. So.......
 
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Originally posted by CapnEnnui
Originally posted by mastahyee

Don't bother unless you play against some real slugs. I have +4 Blitz and I blitz almost every down. It's pretty much garbage against a good O-line. Your best bet is getting something +speed and +break block, because even with the agility boost you'll just get stonewalled because LBs never have enough strength to go toe-to-toe with linemen. Only get it if your D-line is good enough to eat up blockers like no tomorrow.

Want proof? Watch my replays from today. Nothing.

Sample: This is what it looks like 95% of the time:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=377761&pbp_id=12656526


Tell me about it. My every down blitzing LB hasn't produced anywhere near his production the last couple seasons. It might not even be strength that's needed, because even HBs seem capable of picking up LB blitzes nearly every down for at least one block (which is almost always enough), despite 99% of them never touching the blocking stat.

Bitch bitch etc.

That said, Blitz is supposedly awesome. Couldn't tell you from personal experience but it sounds like +4 Blitz will pay off more than +3 agility to me, if you're blitzing almost every down.


Aura still working out for you?
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Blamo

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by gtthom86



Just rolled a +1 str and +1 Blitz SA, just wondering if anyone had good things to say about the Blitz SA. I'm usually wary of adding SA that are not on the players tree, but since LB SAs suck i'd make an exception. My LB is the primary blitzing LB on the team.

I'd be able to upgrade it immediately to a +4 blitz SA. Right now i'm rolling with a +3 agility SA, so i'd be losing 3 agility in the trade off.


Linebackers s.a's don't suck. you're spouting forum regurgitation vomit.


Linebacker SA trees are probably the weakest in the whole game. Besides K/P, I can't think of a single player type that doesn't have a "must have" SA like the LB tree does. D-Gen doesn't count because it's only a "must have" for 1/3 of LBs.


Well you're also preaching 60+ vision for a linebacker. So.......


60+ vision for a position that has to play coverage vs. TEs who get .5 vision per level? Vision is huge in coverage. And aside from helping you out in coverage, I think vision is the #1 "big play" attribute in the game for defense.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=454302&pbp_id=12369325
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=451676&pbp_id=7697647

Obviously those are highlights, but things like that I feel like are more likely to happen with high vision rather than say, strength. 60 vision is better than 60 strength for sure... although I could see the argument that 60 tackling might be more valuable in the current state of the game. I think 60 of both are necessary at the AAA/Pro level now, though.


edit: But srsly. Try and tell me why any LB SAs are worth a damn? Nobody knows if the morale ones were EVER any good, but with AEQ to the Gen SAs and Motivational Speaker, they lost most of whatever worth they did have. So that means no matter what, the first two SAs in both trees kind of blow. Diving tackle is pretty good, but not worth the point sink of Snarl/Aura of Int. If it was Wrap Up-Tackle, maybe... but not for Diving tackle. Monster hit is actually pretty good, but again... morale reduction has much less of an impact now, and fumbles are as fairly infrequent occurrence. Probably not worth putting any points at all into the prerequisites. Then D-Gen is GREAT for ILB/MLB... but I'd honestly rather have my MLB roll a AEQ piece or two with the SA on it than waste points in that horrible tree.

Then in pass rush talk trash/the glare are the same as the aura's... Usefulness in the past was dubious at best, and now morale boosts are flying all over the field. Shed Block used to be good, but now nobody even knows if it works for sure. Swat Ball is pretty good... but I would have much rather of spent all the SP to get there in vision and jumping, tbh. And even if Big Sack DIDN'T suck, even a great LB would top out at 15-18 sacks a year against relevant opponents.
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