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SamsonsToupee
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Head Fake or Juke SA? Which is better this season?
I ask this because "most" defensive players this season have an increased awareness of adding vision to their build.
Do they still work and if so, which is better and at what #SA does it take to make it really tick.

My speed HB (100+speed/65+agility) recently got a Fake Chance AE piece.
Currently it is up to: +2 carrying, +2 speed, Fake chance +9% (it came with carrying and I am waiting to get speed to +4 before equipping it)
OR scratch that piece and try to find something better

Thanks
-Samson
 
Mofo
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If you're talking about your WE A#2 HB then they are probably still effective at your level. I'm not sure which one would be better though since they are both useless at higher levels
Last edited Mar 17, 2009 15:45:32
 
Adderfist
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Don't bother.
 
Kevin Smith
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Aaaahhh, Head Fake and Juke, where skill points go to die.
Last edited Mar 17, 2009 19:25:27
 
SamsonsToupee
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ok then, I don't plan on retiring my lvl 32 HB any time soon. BEST AE piece for a Speed Back? Quick Cut?
 
Adderfist
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Originally posted by SamsonsToupee
ok then, I don't plan on retiring my lvl 32 HB any time soon. BEST AE piece for a Speed Back? Quick Cut?


QC or FS
 
HULK
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=373299&pbp_id=8004472

Headfake ftw
 
SamsonsToupee
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Originally posted by HULK
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=373299&pbp_id=8004472

Headfake ftw


impressive HULK............and thanks for the reply.
I noticed that HB is only a "3rd down" HB or a receiving back. I want Joey to be mainly a rushing HB with just enough catching to get him by.

Any rushing speed Backs out there with high head fake that are successful? 2000 yards/season+........
 
HULK
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Originally posted by SamsonsToupee
Originally posted by HULK

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=373299&pbp_id=8004472

Headfake ftw


impressive HULK............and thanks for the reply.
I noticed that HB is only a "3rd down" HB or a receiving back. I want Joey to be mainly a rushing HB with just enough catching to get him by.

Any rushing speed Backs out there with high head fake that are successful? 2000 yards/season+........


Tea Baggins. His early sucess was tied to headfake being overpowered at first. Once headfake got tuned down, I don't think it was as useful for carrying out of the backfield. His sucess lately is tied to something else, and I'm not sure what.

Mainly, I think its useful for those "one guy to beat" situations.
 
Mofo
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Originally posted by SamsonsToupee
Originally posted by HULK

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=373299&pbp_id=8004472

Headfake ftw


impressive HULK............and thanks for the reply.
I noticed that HB is only a "3rd down" HB or a receiving back. I want Joey to be mainly a rushing HB with just enough catching to get him by.

Any rushing speed Backs out there with high head fake that are successful? 2000 yards/season+........


My HB has high head fake and is having an ok season. If I could switch all the points I have in head fake over to quick cut I would do it in a second though
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=373392&pbp_id=10328799

I think the corner got head faked
 
kingofgod
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Head fake is good
 
ashes
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head fake is the suck

youll see the player running down the field and the little chasing defender will start shrinking and expanding two or three times as the hella high pumped head fake triggers off and the defender keeps his same momentum the whole time and winds up with the tackle

great skill for sure
 
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Originally posted by ashes
head fake is the suck

youll see the player running down the field and the little chasing defender will start shrinking and expanding two or three times as the hella high pumped head fake triggers off and the defender keeps his same momentum the whole time and winds up with the tackle

great skill for sure


No he will freeze for a little. If you have very high speed that is enough to take advantage.
 
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i went back and took another look at the skill triggering off. ive got a 90+ speed HB with 9 in headfake and ever since season, what, 3? ive been really disapointed, seems like im always reaching the part of the sim thats just been nerfed as i get there.

the play i was most bitter about was one where a LB chased me down, literally flickering up and down and it didnt matter a damn. while i was going back and looking for it i saw where headfake did do some decent work for me, but the vast majority of it turned out to be nothing.

case in point, i catch the ball in the flat with a safety and a lb equadistant in front of me where i can split the difference and be gone. both of them get headfaked out at the exact same time but they recover so fast that by the time i do get into the middle of them theyve both recovered.

punt returning has gone well for my player this year, but thats up across the board. all im saying is that juicing it to 9+ is hugely over rated, and those points are better spent elsewhere
 
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