Warrior General Games

3rd down stopper VS. Clutch

Which is better ?? or are both garbage and I stick with Track Star / Quick ?

Both are garbage.

i want to use them so badly, along with things like long reach


but i cant bring myself to do it



i think attribute boosting VA's should be eliminated... or capped at like 5/10.... it kind of defeats the purpose... players shouldnt be getting faster as they age

Yeah, the attribute-boosting VAs make the game so much more boring and cookie-cutterish. Lame.

Originally posted by mouldsie
i want to use them so badly, along with things like long reach


but i cant bring myself to do it



i think attribute boosting VA's should be eliminated... or capped at like 5/10.... it kind of defeats the purpose... players shouldnt be getting faster as they age

I haven't seen anything but good out of long reach personally. 3rd down stopper and clutch are two VAs I'm holding off on personally.

Yeah I really want to use them too but the attributes are too good to ignore. Although I agree that they make the game a little less creative, they make it so lower level players can keep up with higher level players. My CB that jus got moved into AAA is highly outleveled but I boosted his speed and agility with trackstar/quick so he can keep up with WRs 5-10 levels higher than him.

Originally posted by mmuhr
Yeah I really want to use them too but the attributes are too good to ignore. Although I agree that they make the game a little less creative, they make it so lower level players can keep up with higher level players. My CB that jus got moved into AAA is highly outleveled but I boosted his speed and agility with trackstar/quick so he can keep up with WRs 5-10 levels higher than him.

Don't you think that WR's are boosting the same VA's? If they are and they start with higher attributes then their VA's are worth more than your's are. So you aren't keeping up if everything works right.

Yeah but not all of them are that smart.

Originally posted by FatLoad
Originally posted by mmuhr

Yeah I really want to use them too but the attributes are too good to ignore. Although I agree that they make the game a little less creative, they make it so lower level players can keep up with higher level players. My CB that jus got moved into AAA is highly outleveled but I boosted his speed and agility with trackstar/quick so he can keep up with WRs 5-10 levels higher than him.

Don't you think that WR's are boosting the same VA's? If they are and they start with higher attributes then their VA's are worth more than your's are. So you aren't keeping up if everything works right.


yes you are because the difference between 100 - 115 is smaller than 70 - 85

Originally posted by Asdlfef
Originally posted by mouldsie

i want to use them so badly, along with things like long reach


but i cant bring myself to do it



i think attribute boosting VA's should be eliminated... or capped at like 5/10.... it kind of defeats the purpose... players shouldnt be getting faster as they age

I haven't seen anything but good out of long reach personally. 3rd down stopper and clutch are two VAs I'm holding off on personally.

I picked up 3rd down stopper and I think it is working pretty well. I already picked up a bunch in Quick and Track Star but I have noticed my CB knocking down a lot of passes on 3rd down. He leads the league in INT's but I don't think that has anything to do with 3rd down stopper since it says it only gives a bonus to deflecting passes. I think I am going to combine it now with "Long Reach" to see how that works.

Originally posted by Granted86
Originally posted by FatLoad

Originally posted by mmuhr


Yeah I really want to use them too but the attributes are too good to ignore. Although I agree that they make the game a little less creative, they make it so lower level players can keep up with higher level players. My CB that jus got moved into AAA is highly outleveled but I boosted his speed and agility with trackstar/quick so he can keep up with WRs 5-10 levels higher than him.

Don't you think that WR's are boosting the same VA's? If they are and they start with higher attributes then their VA's are worth more than your's are. So you aren't keeping up if everything works right.


yes you are because the difference between 100 - 115 is smaller than 70 - 85

that too.

ya but you also get more VA's and at a faster rate the higher level you are....

so im with fatload