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Nice.
Your build is open for Ty Tayne Yum Futt
 
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my avg is better so idc plus all those avg are under 40 except for like 1
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Originally posted by jvt51091
my avg is better so idc plus all those avg are under 40 except for like 1


AVG is easier to boost when you are on a bad team. Its all about TB vs IN 20. The worse your team's offense, the more field to work with. IN 20 over 50% is the metric I shoot for, which again can be harmed if you are constantly punting within your team's 20.
 
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so can someone shed some light, does visison help punts much?
 
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Originally posted by Dondoh Eveschevsky
Nice.
Your build is open for Ty Tayne Yum Futt


Tx, BTW
 
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I believe my current punter build will get there at level 36ish. I already took his SAs up to 4-4-5 also, so I could have gotten it done around level 33 I guess. I opted to sacrifice ~1SP in vision long-run value in favor of performing better this season. I'll be the first to let you know when my color crosses over


From current build (72 bar level 29) I'll be capping agility (+30) and 2-capping vision (+8) each with 1/8 weights. A level up also gains 0.44 to the bar, so in 7 levels I should gain the SP needed for those caps (including a season of agility training!), and gain 7.83 points to my bar which easily puts my 72 up to ~80. I just rounded though, so my bar is actually like 70.5 (it just moved up), so I think it'll take the full 7 levels.


Fastest way to a gold bar:
68-cap punting, train conf+vis
60 cap conf, train vis+agi
60 cap vis, train agi+whatever
48 cap agi

Standard slowbuild procedure should be able to get that done by about level 32, and natural gains should get that build plan to the gold bar.
 
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Originally posted by Octowned
I believe my current punter build will get there at level 36ish. I already took his SAs up to 4-4-5 also, so I could have gotten it done around level 33 I guess. I opted to sacrifice ~1SP in vision long-run value in favor of performing better this season. I'll be the first to let you know when my color crosses over


From current build (72 bar level 29) I'll be capping agility (+30) and 2-capping vision (+8) each with 1/8 weights. A level up also gains 0.44 to the bar, so in 7 levels I should gain the SP needed for those caps (including a season of agility training!), and gain 7.83 points to my bar which easily puts my 72 up to ~80. I just rounded though, so my bar is actually like 70.5 (it just moved up), so I think it'll take the full 7 levels.


Fastest way to a gold bar:
68-cap punting, train conf+vis
60 cap conf, train vis+agi
60 cap vis, train agi+whatever
48 cap agi

Standard slowbuild procedure should be able to get that done by about level 32, and natural gains should get that build plan to the gold bar.


forgot about str
 
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strength doesn't move the punting bar
 
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Originally posted by Octowned
I believe my current punter build will get there at level 36ish. I already took his SAs up to 4-4-5 also, so I could have gotten it done around level 33 I guess. I opted to sacrifice ~1SP in vision long-run value in favor of performing better this season. I'll be the first to let you know when my color crosses over


From current build (72 bar level 29) I'll be capping agility (+30) and 2-capping vision (+8) each with 1/8 weights. A level up also gains 0.44 to the bar, so in 7 levels I should gain the SP needed for those caps (including a season of agility training!), and gain 7.83 points to my bar which easily puts my 72 up to ~80. I just rounded though, so my bar is actually like 70.5 (it just moved up), so I think it'll take the full 7 levels.


Fastest way to a gold bar:
68-cap punting, train conf+vis
60 cap conf, train vis+agi
60 cap vis, train agi+whatever
48 cap agi

Standard slowbuild procedure should be able to get that done by about level 32, and natural gains should get that build plan to the gold bar.


Nice... I made the mistake of pumping strength to soft cap first. Level 36 seems quite possible. In fact, keeping strength around 20 or so vs. 48, I think it is possible to hit gold around 33 or 32, pretty much bang on what you suggest.

Wouldn't it be faster to cap punting to 4th cap since each punting point is worth 5 vis/conf/agi points? Why waste a point in the other 3 until an additional punting point is nothing incremental vs. one of the others?
 
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Yup, I was thinking more about it last night and you should actually spend in punting for quite some time, up into like 6:1 even.

The reason I suggested stopping early was just to have more time to spend 1:1 on confidence before it gets up too high.

I think the correct way would be like punting up until it costs 5, then cap confidence, then keep going on punting, then come back to the other stuff.

Would need to be worked out in the build manager or whatever.

Either way, leave strength out and you'll make it by very low 30s, if not right at 30.


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my P boosted to 32, and his bar moved to 75! Getting close
 
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what do you need for the gold bar? lowest i have seen is 78
 
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1/8 Agility + 1/8 Vison + 1/8 Confidence + 5/8 Punting = 78.

Well, the actual tipover is unknown. The bar moves to 78 at 76.5 (rounds to nearest 3, basically). The color changes later. Common theory is the color changes right at the mark, such as 78 or 60 or 39. This is easily countered by noticing a QB has a light green 58 but dark green 59 throwing bar.

Anyway, going for 78 on that formula is a safe guess. I'll try to get as exact an answer as I can next season when I boost and cap agility. I'll go one at a time, so move the bar by 0.125 each time, so I should pinpoint it within... well, 0.125 error, unless I'm unlucky enough for the boost itself to tip me over (which is valued at ~0.44 punting bar points after level 30).
 
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Originally posted by Octowned
1/8 Agility + 1/8 Vison + 1/8 Confidence + 5/8 Punting = 78.

Well, the actual tipover is unknown. The bar moves to 78 at 76.5 (rounds to nearest 3, basically). The color changes later. Common theory is the color changes right at the mark, such as 78 or 60 or 39. This is easily countered by noticing a QB has a light green 58 but dark green 59 throwing bar.

Anyway, going for 78 on that formula is a safe guess. I'll try to get as exact an answer as I can next season when I boost and cap agility. I'll go one at a time, so move the bar by 0.125 each time, so I should pinpoint it within... well, 0.125 error, unless I'm unlucky enough for the boost itself to tip me over (which is valued at ~0.44 punting bar points after level 30).


sweet. good luck figuring it out
 
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Originally posted by Octowned
I believe my current punter build will get there at level 36ish. I already took his SAs up to 4-4-5 also, so I could have gotten it done around level 33 I guess. I opted to sacrifice ~1SP in vision long-run value in favor of performing better this season. I'll be the first to let you know when my color crosses over


From current build (72 bar level 29) I'll be capping agility (+30) and 2-capping vision (+8) each with 1/8 weights. A level up also gains 0.44 to the bar, so in 7 levels I should gain the SP needed for those caps (including a season of agility training!), and gain 7.83 points to my bar which easily puts my 72 up to ~80. I just rounded though, so my bar is actually like 70.5 (it just moved up), so I think it'll take the full 7 levels.


Fastest way to a gold bar:
68-cap punting, train conf+vis
60 cap conf, train vis+agi
60 cap vis, train agi+whatever
48 cap agi

Standard slowbuild procedure should be able to get that done by about level 32, and natural gains should get that build plan to the gold bar.


My level 36 just got his gold bar... http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=831158
 
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