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How high do you need vision for speed rushers with a level in the mid 30s?

I have it capped

I dont

Originally posted by paulstorti
How high do you need vision for speed rushers with a level in the mid 30s?

Based on these two responses you can see 2 theories. One is that Vision has help in the area of Shed Block because the DE can spot plays faster, but another is that while you don't want to neglect it, but don't have to put too much emphasis on it.

I've seem enough built to be convinced (as of today) that the latest Bort nerf requires high Vision to succeed. I would cap.

Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by paulstorti

How high do you need vision for speed rushers with a level in the mid 30s?

Based on these two responses you can see 2 theories. One is that Vision has help in the area of Shed Block because the DE can spot plays faster, but another is that while you don't want to neglect it, but don't have to put too much emphasis on it.

I've seem enough built to be convinced (as of today) that the latest Bort nerf requires high Vision to succeed. I would cap.


I would have to say your claim that capped vision is "high" is naive.

i feel that higher vision would help a DE/DT read the snap better.

more important now with the jump the snap VA?

Originally posted by reeso
more important now with the jump the snap VA?

Unlike some D for Dick people in here, I think this VA kind of gave away Bort's algorithm for DL (if only they would wake up from fantasy land and use their brains.) Higher Vision is required to get a good pass read and have a solid jump off the line, to shed the block, and reach the QB.

Cap Vision and use Jump the Snap VA and watch your DE dominate (assuming your other attributes and SAs are there)

Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by reeso

more important now with the jump the snap VA?

I think this VA kind of gave away Bort's algorithm for DL (if only they would wake up from fantasy land and use their brains.) Higher Vision is required to get a good pass read and have a solid jump off the line, to shed the block, and reach the QB.


I was under the impression he gave it away when he talked about vision checks way back at the start of last season.

seriously

Originally posted by changelog

Nov 17, 2008
- Snap delay based on vision added for pass rush (similar to running play delay)

I have it capped

Originally posted by DLight03
Originally posted by BiggerBlue

Originally posted by reeso


more important now with the jump the snap VA?

I think this VA kind of gave away Bort's algorithm for DL (if only they would wake up from fantasy land and use their brains.) Higher Vision is required to get a good pass read and have a solid jump off the line, to shed the block, and reach the QB.


I was under the impression he gave it away when he talked about vision checks way back at the start of last season.


Originally posted by monsterkill
seriously

Originally posted by changelog

Nov 17, 2008
- Snap delay based on vision added for pass rush (similar to running play delay)

seriously, would you guys stop trying to shatter BB's illusion that he is the only one who knows how to build a DE? you're hurting his feelings.

you're being "D for Dicks".

BB needs to trademark the inevitable silence he emits.

Originally posted by bluto
i feel that higher vision would help a DE/DT read the snap better.

There is a vision check before the snap to basically know how fast the D-Lineman get's off the snap... The new VA basically tells us that so I would work on at least capping it... Dont know how much better it would work if it were higher...