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hello,

i was wondering... is it better to build a cb to speed or agility. How much long bombs are there really trown? most are short/medium routes in which agi is m ore impotant (imo).

how do you guy's think about this??

I agree, I think the builds where cbs have like 90 speed and only 60 agility are terrible.

Originally posted by HoTSauc3
90 speed and only 60 agility are terrible.

that is why you dont have a player higher than 30 because in a league with recievers having 120 speed i would take my 90 speed and 60 agility

Agility needs to be way higher than 60, but not at the expense of speed.

Originally posted by pimp of ubeness
Originally posted by HoTSauc3

90 speed and only 60 agility are terrible.

that is why you dont have a player higher than 30 because in a league with recievers having 120 speed i would take my 90 speed and 60 agility

actually he is right on the money. that is way too big of a gap between speed and agility without high change direction to compensate.

but for a starting CB... should you focus on speed or agi? I am building a new one right now and i think about capping agi and vision first. and let speed hang to about 30. afther that... jumping and speed will be the key componant.

hopefully it works out

yeah i also wanna make one of me cb a agility vision based, like 80 natural speed and 90+ agility with high vision
in my thoughts agility and vision are what determine your reaction speed so if your reacting super fast its gotta be good

Originally posted by wekko
hello,

i was wondering... is it better to build a cb to speed or agility. How much long bombs are there really trown? most are short/medium routes in which agi is m ore impotant (imo).

how do you guy's think about this??

Having a good speed/agility ratio is really based on how committed you are to being good. If you have the time to scout the team you play every game and see how their receivers run patterns, and see who you're going to be covering on plays, then you can pretty much figure out what you need from game to game.

Basically you want to have enough equipment to switch between very high speed or balanced speed and agility.

There is no definite answer on what's best for a corner's speed and agility. I do find that 80/80 is good against the receivers who run short to medium routes. and 90/70 are good for the burners. If you face a super burner, you're kinda screwed, but those are few and far between, and I'm talking 110+ speed here.

"Basically you want to have enough equipment to switch between very high speed or balanced speed and agility."

you must be on some rich teams if you can have 2-3 sets of fully upgraded equipment

Originally posted by SPYFELLOW
"Basically you want to have enough equipment to switch between very high speed or balanced speed and agility."

you must be on some rich teams if you can have 2-3 sets of fully upgraded equipment

no just extra cleats and gloves with +5 agility each. I don't know where you read I said to have 2-3 fully upgraded sets of equipment.

Originally posted by HoTSauc3
I agree, I think the builds where cbs have like 90 speed and only 60 agility are terrible.

Sooooo true, I used to think this was a great build, until I did more experimenting and research, I realized that this is a bad build. This build will put up stats and will make some INTs, but you cannot make a shutdown cornerback with 90 speed and 60 agility, because your agility is so out of balance with your speed. This has never been more apparent than this season, agility for CBs have become so more important now. I discovered this with my CB, here are some examples (I'd give more, but I switched his equip too late in the season)

This is my CB:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=783083


In the beginning of the season, I had all his equip in speed, and his attributes were:
80.06 speed
56.06 agility

I kept noticing this problem:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=332469&pbp_id=10506983
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=332464&pbp_id=9751051
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=332453&pbp_id=9012516

These were the only passes my CB would let up, he would over persue the route and end up outrunning the WR and not having the change of direction speed to come back to the ball. This isn't a problem for the WR though, because he always has a step or two on the CB because he knows where he is going at all times essentially.

So, then I got to some thinking, and took some advice, and switched my equip up, and now his attributes sit at:
74.06 speed
62.06 agility

Immediately I noticed a difference and am so happy I made the switch, watch this play he made in the last game of the season:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=332431&pbp_id=12697495

If my agility/speed ratio had been what it was earlier in the season, I would have not been able to make this play.

i am perfectly fine with my 90 60 build. i have my 15 VAs in quick and play just fine

i built a guy thinking he would be a solid cover 2 corner. as in - not covering the deep ball. his equip is all in agility so far, but i think im gonna have to even it out. its tough to get signed and tougher to get playing time when u arent cookie cutter. i guess im gonna spend my next 6 equips and all of my upcoming SP's from advancing and boosting on speed till theyre even, unless anyone knows a cover 2 team? thanks for input/advice...

jake

Originally posted by stevdau
Agility needs to be way higher than 60, but not at the expense of speed.

False in my opinion. Once agility is at 60, spending SP in Change Direction gives a much better return of investment than 3rd capping agility.

Originally posted by Viscount
Originally posted by stevdau

Agility needs to be way higher than 60, but not at the expense of speed.

False in my opinion. Once agility is at 60, spending SP in Change Direction gives a much better return of investment than 3rd capping agility.

I've suspected the breakeven point is in the low 60s myself. Glad to see some confirmation.

EDIT: That being said, if you're going to heavily invest in things like Quick or Shutdown Coverage, I think the raw Agility may still be better.)