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What is a decent tackle to PD ratio? I'm curious what is considered to be good

Obviously it's all about not letting your man get the ball, but there are some run support tackles as well.

Don't worry about it not a good stat to look at. Some play special teams and have lots of tackles. Others are very good shutdown and teams run the ball more.

You want more PD then tackles, but that does not always mean you suck if you dont reach thoes numbers.

You have to take into account your level of competition, if you play ST, etc,etc. Playing gutted teams will raise your PD, playing teams better then you will raise your Tackles.

Also, the better your db, the less you get thrown at, so the less chances for PD you get.

Also, if your DB is enough faster than the rest of the defense, he'll get tackles when other DB's receivers catch the ball near him...

But if it helps to set your scale, my CB (who is well built in my opinion and who outlevels most of the WRs he faces by 2-3 levels) has 39 PDs, 5 INTs, and 27 tackles.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=699667

Its proportionate but you want atleast the same # of PDs as tackles. Double the PDs is a great # to shoot for but very difficult to reach.

My CB has made:
44 tackles in coverage (this means just tackles where the QB has completed a pass and my CB has made the tackle)
64 stops in coverage (57 PDs + 7 INTs)
Has let up only 1 TD
Has scored 5 TDs

So, his tackles to stoppages in coverage is 1 tackle to every 1.45 stoppages
And, his TDs allowed to TDs made is 1 TD allowed to every 5 TDs made

I guess those are some pretty good numbers, thats all while being a level 30 starting in the #1 CB position

Originally posted by Virgin Goldstandard
My CB has made:
44 tackles in coverage (this means just tackles where the QB has completed a pass and my CB has made the tackle)
64 stops in coverage (57 PDs + 7 INTs)
Has let up only 1 TD
Has scored 5 TDs

So, his tackles to stoppages in coverage is 1 tackle to every 1.45 stoppages
And, his TDs allowed to TDs made is 1 TD allowed to every 5 TDs made

I guess those are some pretty good numbers, thats all while being a level 30 starting in the #1 CB position

Those are good stats...but in the interest of full disclosure your lev 30 CB is going up against lev 20ish WRs...

the most important stat is wins.

the next most important stats are of the WRs that you are covering. It doesn't matter to have 2 tackles and 11 PDs if you give up 100 yards and a score to your WR.

Originally posted by merk
Originally posted by Virgin Goldstandard

My CB has made:
44 tackles in coverage (this means just tackles where the QB has completed a pass and my CB has made the tackle)
64 stops in coverage (57 PDs + 7 INTs)
Has let up only 1 TD
Has scored 5 TDs

So, his tackles to stoppages in coverage is 1 tackle to every 1.45 stoppages
And, his TDs allowed to TDs made is 1 TD allowed to every 5 TDs made

I guess those are some pretty good numbers, thats all while being a level 30 starting in the #1 CB position

Those are good stats...but in the interest of full disclosure your lev 30 CB is going up against lev 20ish WRs...

That's true, I won't deny that, its strange, every other position on most teams is 30 or higher except for the WR position

special teams makes this hard to track

also if you are a shutdown corner, the ball will rarely even be thrown your way... so no PDs or tackles...

add in tackles against the run, or tackles on receivers you weren't covering, and it's tough to track these stats

Originally posted by Virgin Goldstandard


That's true, I won't deny that, its strange, every other position on most teams is 30 or higher except for the WR position

And it is also true that my CB outlevels his competition...given that neither of us has twice as many PDs as tackles, that probably is too high of a standard to be the gold standard for CBs...maybe equal or 1.5 PDs to tackles...or maybe something a bit more complex like: PDs - tackles + 4*(INTs - TDs allowed) should be > 0 would be a better standard...

better still would be receptions allowed, but that gets harder and harder to track down...

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A game in which my other CB just played in shows the weakness of any such formula. He had 6 tackes and 3 PDs...sounds like the WR worked him right? Well three of the tackles were on the HB (2 on running plays and 1 on a pass in which he was uncovered). The other 3 receptions went for a combined 7 yards....In reality, my CB was targeted 6 times, knocked down 3 passes and yielded 1.2 yards / attempt...In the above formula he would be a -3...which would look like a bad day...

i have two CBs on the same team. one is 27, the other is 26. the 27 has 11 tackles and 22 PDs. the other has 29 tackles and 22 PDs. the first seems better than the 2nd, until you see that the 2nd has 3 sacks also. since we blitz him a fair amount his numbers look entirely different.

This:
Originally posted by division26
special teams makes this hard to track

also if you are a shutdown corner, the ball will rarely even be thrown your way... so no PDs or tackles...

add in tackles against the run, or tackles on receivers you weren't covering, and it's tough to track these stats

and this:
Originally posted by Negronic
the most important stat is wins.

the next most important stats are of the WRs that you are covering. It doesn't matter to have 2 tackles and 11 PDs if you give up 100 yards and a score to your WR.