I have a new fullback at lvl 6 i want to softcap one of his stats but i dont know which one to do.
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Originally posted by Meatdawg
strength, followed by agl,speed,blk
I'd do speed last. Speed is not a primary or secondary for a fullback. It's definitely needed, but only add SP to it when you absolutely must
strength, followed by agl,speed,blk
I'd do speed last. Speed is not a primary or secondary for a fullback. It's definitely needed, but only add SP to it when you absolutely must
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Originally posted by TheGreatPuma
Originally posted by Meatdawg
strength, followed by agl,speed,blk
I'd do speed last. Speed is not a primary or secondary for a fullback. It's definitely needed, but only add SP to it when you absolutely must
I'd agree with your order for putting points in, but in a vacuum, without softcaps, just looking purely at which numbers should be highest, speed is more important than blocking.
Originally posted by Meatdawg
strength, followed by agl,speed,blk
I'd do speed last. Speed is not a primary or secondary for a fullback. It's definitely needed, but only add SP to it when you absolutely must
I'd agree with your order for putting points in, but in a vacuum, without softcaps, just looking purely at which numbers should be highest, speed is more important than blocking.
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Originally posted by TheGreatPuma
Originally posted by Meatdawg
strength, followed by agl,speed,blk
I'd do speed last. Speed is not a primary or secondary for a fullback. It's definitely needed, but only add SP to it when you absolutely must
I have 2 fb's.
One is 41, and the other is 34.
The level 41 has 64 natrual blk, and the level 34 has 53 natrual blk. Both have more str, agl and speed then blking. The 41 is a pure blocker, the 34 is a power rushing fb that can also blk.
If I were to make a FB now, I would never spend points in blocking, only train it.
Str to 49 cap, agl to 49 cap, str to 61 cap, agl to 61 cap, str to 68 cap, speed to 48 cap, agl to 68 cap, speed to 61 cap.
I have noticed that as a fb gets faster, it doesnt really matter what blk you have, he will hit the hole faster and hold his blk just as well.
Originally posted by Meatdawg
strength, followed by agl,speed,blk
I'd do speed last. Speed is not a primary or secondary for a fullback. It's definitely needed, but only add SP to it when you absolutely must
I have 2 fb's.
One is 41, and the other is 34.
The level 41 has 64 natrual blk, and the level 34 has 53 natrual blk. Both have more str, agl and speed then blking. The 41 is a pure blocker, the 34 is a power rushing fb that can also blk.
If I were to make a FB now, I would never spend points in blocking, only train it.
Str to 49 cap, agl to 49 cap, str to 61 cap, agl to 61 cap, str to 68 cap, speed to 48 cap, agl to 68 cap, speed to 61 cap.
I have noticed that as a fb gets faster, it doesnt really matter what blk you have, he will hit the hole faster and hold his blk just as well.
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The fact that a WR with 8 in blocking can hold his block for a few seconds on an outside run gives an idea of how useful it is to a FB..
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Originally posted by pottsman
I'd agree with your order for putting points in, but in a vacuum, without softcaps, just looking purely at which numbers should be highest, speed is more important than blocking.
Agreed.
Originally posted by Meatdawg
I have 2 fb's.
One is 41, and the other is 34.
The level 41 has 64 natrual blk, and the level 34 has 53 natrual blk. Both have more str, agl and speed then blking. The 41 is a pure blocker, the 34 is a power rushing fb that can also blk.
If I were to make a FB now, I would never spend points in blocking, only train it.
Str to 49 cap, agl to 49 cap, str to 61 cap, agl to 61 cap, str to 68 cap, speed to 48 cap, agl to 68 cap, speed to 61 cap.
I have noticed that as a fb gets faster, it doesnt really matter what blk you have, he will hit the hole faster and hold his blk just as well.
Yeah, of course you don't need to worry about softcapping a skill you don't intend to softcap.
But if you're planning on spending points in blocking up to the cap at some point it makes sense to do it before speed. That was my point. I wasn't trying to say blocking > speed.
I'd agree with your order for putting points in, but in a vacuum, without softcaps, just looking purely at which numbers should be highest, speed is more important than blocking.
Agreed.
Originally posted by Meatdawg
I have 2 fb's.
One is 41, and the other is 34.
The level 41 has 64 natrual blk, and the level 34 has 53 natrual blk. Both have more str, agl and speed then blking. The 41 is a pure blocker, the 34 is a power rushing fb that can also blk.
If I were to make a FB now, I would never spend points in blocking, only train it.
Str to 49 cap, agl to 49 cap, str to 61 cap, agl to 61 cap, str to 68 cap, speed to 48 cap, agl to 68 cap, speed to 61 cap.
I have noticed that as a fb gets faster, it doesnt really matter what blk you have, he will hit the hole faster and hold his blk just as well.
Yeah, of course you don't need to worry about softcapping a skill you don't intend to softcap.
But if you're planning on spending points in blocking up to the cap at some point it makes sense to do it before speed. That was my point. I wasn't trying to say blocking > speed.
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Originally posted by TheGreatPuma
Originally posted by pottsman
I'd agree with your order for putting points in, but in a vacuum, without softcaps, just looking purely at which numbers should be highest, speed is more important than blocking.
Agreed.
Originally posted by Meatdawg
I have 2 fb's.
One is 41, and the other is 34.
The level 41 has 64 natrual blk, and the level 34 has 53 natrual blk. Both have more str, agl and speed then blking. The 41 is a pure blocker, the 34 is a power rushing fb that can also blk.
If I were to make a FB now, I would never spend points in blocking, only train it.
Str to 49 cap, agl to 49 cap, str to 61 cap, agl to 61 cap, str to 68 cap, speed to 48 cap, agl to 68 cap, speed to 61 cap.
I have noticed that as a fb gets faster, it doesnt really matter what blk you have, he will hit the hole faster and hold his blk just as well.
Yeah, of course you don't need to worry about softcapping a skill you don't intend to softcap.
But if you're planning on spending points in blocking up to the cap at some point it makes sense to do it before speed. That was my point. I wasn't trying to say blocking > speed.
Correct, if at any point in your build plan you intend to cap a major you are better off doing it sooner then later, to reap the rewards of natural gains.
And since speed doesn't move for a FB, you can wait as long as you need to raise it...
However, I would probably not invest any points into block, even training it. I think you can get by on high str alone.
Originally posted by pottsman
I'd agree with your order for putting points in, but in a vacuum, without softcaps, just looking purely at which numbers should be highest, speed is more important than blocking.
Agreed.
Originally posted by Meatdawg
I have 2 fb's.
One is 41, and the other is 34.
The level 41 has 64 natrual blk, and the level 34 has 53 natrual blk. Both have more str, agl and speed then blking. The 41 is a pure blocker, the 34 is a power rushing fb that can also blk.
If I were to make a FB now, I would never spend points in blocking, only train it.
Str to 49 cap, agl to 49 cap, str to 61 cap, agl to 61 cap, str to 68 cap, speed to 48 cap, agl to 68 cap, speed to 61 cap.
I have noticed that as a fb gets faster, it doesnt really matter what blk you have, he will hit the hole faster and hold his blk just as well.
Yeah, of course you don't need to worry about softcapping a skill you don't intend to softcap.
But if you're planning on spending points in blocking up to the cap at some point it makes sense to do it before speed. That was my point. I wasn't trying to say blocking > speed.
Correct, if at any point in your build plan you intend to cap a major you are better off doing it sooner then later, to reap the rewards of natural gains.
And since speed doesn't move for a FB, you can wait as long as you need to raise it...
However, I would probably not invest any points into block, even training it. I think you can get by on high str alone.
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Originally posted by Meatdawg
However, I would probably not invest any points into block, even training it. I think you can get by on high str alone.
My slow built FB hasn't trained blocking and it's roughly up to 25 at this point. I'll train it at some point, but I'm targeting 30-40 in blocking around level 35+.
For a run blocking FB, he does a good job. He hits the defenders quickly, and holds them in place long enough for the RB to get by. He does lose blocks every once in a while, but by the time he does, the RB is typically past him and my FB has done his job. I think that's really all that's necessary.
However, I would probably not invest any points into block, even training it. I think you can get by on high str alone.
My slow built FB hasn't trained blocking and it's roughly up to 25 at this point. I'll train it at some point, but I'm targeting 30-40 in blocking around level 35+.
For a run blocking FB, he does a good job. He hits the defenders quickly, and holds them in place long enough for the RB to get by. He does lose blocks every once in a while, but by the time he does, the RB is typically past him and my FB has done his job. I think that's really all that's necessary.
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Let me start by saying build a purely blocking FB. Great teams won't run the FB if they know what they're doing. Don't bother pointing out the good rushing FBs it's doesn't matter.
Agility is the single most important att for a FB. Bottom line is you need to get to the blocks and agility, speed and to a certain degree vision is what gets you there. The FB has to move in all directions very quickly. Agility is critical for both run and pass blocking. To those that say speed is not important just watch a 90 speed HB outrun their blocking. It's not fun.
So in order agility, speed, blocking, strength, and vision. Of course once you get going lead block and spot blitz are very important.
Agility is the single most important att for a FB. Bottom line is you need to get to the blocks and agility, speed and to a certain degree vision is what gets you there. The FB has to move in all directions very quickly. Agility is critical for both run and pass blocking. To those that say speed is not important just watch a 90 speed HB outrun their blocking. It's not fun.
So in order agility, speed, blocking, strength, and vision. Of course once you get going lead block and spot blitz are very important.
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Originally posted by NRS
Let me start by saying build a purely blocking FB. Great teams won't run the FB if they know what they're doing. Don't bother pointing out the good rushing FBs it's doesn't matter.
Agility is the single most important att for a FB. Bottom line is you need to get to the blocks and agility, speed and to a certain degree vision is what gets you there. The FB has to move in all directions very quickly. Agility is critical for both run and pass blocking. To those that say speed is not important just watch a 90 speed HB outrun their blocking. It's not fun.
So in order agility, speed, blocking, strength, and vision. Of course once you get going lead block and spot blitz are very important.
Unless you need your player to compete right away there is no point in softcapping speed before strenght, agility, vison, or blocking. All of those attributes have natural leveling because they are major or minor attributes, speed gets no natural benefit of capping early so it should really be the last thing you touch before you need your FB to be ready. It takes a few seasons to build a good FB.
Let me start by saying build a purely blocking FB. Great teams won't run the FB if they know what they're doing. Don't bother pointing out the good rushing FBs it's doesn't matter.
Agility is the single most important att for a FB. Bottom line is you need to get to the blocks and agility, speed and to a certain degree vision is what gets you there. The FB has to move in all directions very quickly. Agility is critical for both run and pass blocking. To those that say speed is not important just watch a 90 speed HB outrun their blocking. It's not fun.
So in order agility, speed, blocking, strength, and vision. Of course once you get going lead block and spot blitz are very important.
Unless you need your player to compete right away there is no point in softcapping speed before strenght, agility, vison, or blocking. All of those attributes have natural leveling because they are major or minor attributes, speed gets no natural benefit of capping early so it should really be the last thing you touch before you need your FB to be ready. It takes a few seasons to build a good FB.
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Originally posted by Dustin Diamond
Originally posted by NRS
Let me start by saying build a purely blocking FB. Great teams won't run the FB if they know what they're doing. Don't bother pointing out the good rushing FBs it's doesn't matter.
Agility is the single most important att for a FB. Bottom line is you need to get to the blocks and agility, speed and to a certain degree vision is what gets you there. The FB has to move in all directions very quickly. Agility is critical for both run and pass blocking. To those that say speed is not important just watch a 90 speed HB outrun their blocking. It's not fun.
So in order agility, speed, blocking, strength, and vision. Of course once you get going lead block and spot blitz are very important.
Unless you need your player to compete right away there is no point in softcapping speed before strenght, agility, vison, or blocking. All of those attributes have natural leveling because they are major or minor attributes, speed gets no natural benefit of capping early so it should really be the last thing you touch before you need your FB to be ready. It takes a few seasons to build a good FB.
Not caping str first is a waste. The natural gains far outweight any benifit caping speed early could give you. I agree with agl, as I have it rated 2nd, and would probably invest in the VA quick before workout warrior. I am still on the fence on vision because as I continue to raise it on my 41 fb, I sware he makes dumber and dumber decisions on who to block.
Originally posted by NRS
Let me start by saying build a purely blocking FB. Great teams won't run the FB if they know what they're doing. Don't bother pointing out the good rushing FBs it's doesn't matter.
Agility is the single most important att for a FB. Bottom line is you need to get to the blocks and agility, speed and to a certain degree vision is what gets you there. The FB has to move in all directions very quickly. Agility is critical for both run and pass blocking. To those that say speed is not important just watch a 90 speed HB outrun their blocking. It's not fun.
So in order agility, speed, blocking, strength, and vision. Of course once you get going lead block and spot blitz are very important.
Unless you need your player to compete right away there is no point in softcapping speed before strenght, agility, vison, or blocking. All of those attributes have natural leveling because they are major or minor attributes, speed gets no natural benefit of capping early so it should really be the last thing you touch before you need your FB to be ready. It takes a few seasons to build a good FB.
Not caping str first is a waste. The natural gains far outweight any benifit caping speed early could give you. I agree with agl, as I have it rated 2nd, and would probably invest in the VA quick before workout warrior. I am still on the fence on vision because as I continue to raise it on my 41 fb, I sware he makes dumber and dumber decisions on who to block.
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Originally posted by Meatdawg
Originally posted by Dustin Diamond
Originally posted by NRS
Let me start by saying build a purely blocking FB. Great teams won't run the FB if they know what they're doing. Don't bother pointing out the good rushing FBs it's doesn't matter.
Agility is the single most important att for a FB. Bottom line is you need to get to the blocks and agility, speed and to a certain degree vision is what gets you there. The FB has to move in all directions very quickly. Agility is critical for both run and pass blocking. To those that say speed is not important just watch a 90 speed HB outrun their blocking. It's not fun.
So in order agility, speed, blocking, strength, and vision. Of course once you get going lead block and spot blitz are very important.
Unless you need your player to compete right away there is no point in softcapping speed before strenght, agility, vison, or blocking. All of those attributes have natural leveling because they are major or minor attributes, speed gets no natural benefit of capping early so it should really be the last thing you touch before you need your FB to be ready. It takes a few seasons to build a good FB.
Not caping str first is a waste. The natural gains far outweight any benifit caping speed early could give you. I agree with agl, as I have it rated 2nd, and would probably invest in the VA quick before workout warrior. I am still on the fence on vision because as I continue to raise it on my 41 fb, I sware he makes dumber and dumber decisions on who to block.
exactly
Originally posted by Dustin Diamond
Originally posted by NRS
Let me start by saying build a purely blocking FB. Great teams won't run the FB if they know what they're doing. Don't bother pointing out the good rushing FBs it's doesn't matter.
Agility is the single most important att for a FB. Bottom line is you need to get to the blocks and agility, speed and to a certain degree vision is what gets you there. The FB has to move in all directions very quickly. Agility is critical for both run and pass blocking. To those that say speed is not important just watch a 90 speed HB outrun their blocking. It's not fun.
So in order agility, speed, blocking, strength, and vision. Of course once you get going lead block and spot blitz are very important.
Unless you need your player to compete right away there is no point in softcapping speed before strenght, agility, vison, or blocking. All of those attributes have natural leveling because they are major or minor attributes, speed gets no natural benefit of capping early so it should really be the last thing you touch before you need your FB to be ready. It takes a few seasons to build a good FB.
Not caping str first is a waste. The natural gains far outweight any benifit caping speed early could give you. I agree with agl, as I have it rated 2nd, and would probably invest in the VA quick before workout warrior. I am still on the fence on vision because as I continue to raise it on my 41 fb, I sware he makes dumber and dumber decisions on who to block.
exactly
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