Pulled a +1 Blocking +1 Superior Vision piece. I hear SV is great for LBs but obviously the blocking is pretty useless. Purchase it or keep trying?
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Originally posted by hoya1982
Purchase it AND keep trying
The blocking isn't entirely useless, but yes, there are definitely better pieces out there. I was so excited to find Superior Vision though, I believe there was nothing else on it.
Purchase it AND keep trying
The blocking isn't entirely useless, but yes, there are definitely better pieces out there. I was so excited to find Superior Vision though, I believe there was nothing else on it.
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Originally posted by JRice80
The blocking is, in fact, entirely useless.
And you are sure of this how? Bort has explicitly stated that Blocking is a variable in the "shed block" formula.
For proof:
http://www.glbwiki.com/index.php?title=Player_Attributes
Blocking
If you plan running any kind of offense you're going to need plenty of good blockers. Blocking helps your player to keep his target occupied longer. For defensive players, knowing how to block helps you know how to shed blocks a little easier.
Also:
http://www.glbwiki.com/index.php?title=Leveling#Automatic_Attribute_Gains
Note that DT, DE, LB, SS and FS all have Blocking as a secondary attribute.
Please don't spread false information; thanks.
The blocking is, in fact, entirely useless.
And you are sure of this how? Bort has explicitly stated that Blocking is a variable in the "shed block" formula.
For proof:
http://www.glbwiki.com/index.php?title=Player_Attributes
Blocking
If you plan running any kind of offense you're going to need plenty of good blockers. Blocking helps your player to keep his target occupied longer. For defensive players, knowing how to block helps you know how to shed blocks a little easier.
Also:
http://www.glbwiki.com/index.php?title=Leveling#Automatic_Attribute_Gains
Note that DT, DE, LB, SS and FS all have Blocking as a secondary attribute.
Please don't spread false information; thanks.
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Originally posted by wallysmith
Originally posted by JRice80
The blocking is, in fact, entirely useless.
And you are sure of this how? Bort has explicitly stated that Blocking is a variable in the "shed block" formula.
For proof:
http://www.glbwiki.com/index.php?title=Player_Attributes
Blocking
If you plan running any kind of offense you're going to need plenty of good blockers. Blocking helps your player to keep his target occupied longer. For defensive players, knowing how to block helps you know how to shed blocks a little easier.
Also:
http://www.glbwiki.com/index.php?title=Leveling#Automatic_Attribute_Gains
Note that DT, DE, LB, SS and FS all have Blocking as a secondary attribute.
Please don't spread false information; thanks.
Lol. Bort says that vision works for HBs too.
Originally posted by JRice80
The blocking is, in fact, entirely useless.
And you are sure of this how? Bort has explicitly stated that Blocking is a variable in the "shed block" formula.
For proof:
http://www.glbwiki.com/index.php?title=Player_Attributes
Blocking
If you plan running any kind of offense you're going to need plenty of good blockers. Blocking helps your player to keep his target occupied longer. For defensive players, knowing how to block helps you know how to shed blocks a little easier.
Also:
http://www.glbwiki.com/index.php?title=Leveling#Automatic_Attribute_Gains
Note that DT, DE, LB, SS and FS all have Blocking as a secondary attribute.
Please don't spread false information; thanks.
Lol. Bort says that vision works for HBs too.
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Originally posted by JRice80
Lol. Bort says that vision works for HBs too.
Whether or not it works properly or not isn't the question... the fact of the matter is that it's a factor in the calculations. Thanks for proving my point though.
Lol. Bort says that vision works for HBs too.
Whether or not it works properly or not isn't the question... the fact of the matter is that it's a factor in the calculations. Thanks for proving my point though.
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Originally posted by wallysmith
Originally posted by JRice80
Lol. Bort says that vision works for HBs too.
Whether or not it works properly or not isn't the question... the fact of the matter is that it's a factor in the calculations. Thanks for proving my point though.
Thanks for proving my point by admitting it doesn't work.
Originally posted by JRice80
Lol. Bort says that vision works for HBs too.
Whether or not it works properly or not isn't the question... the fact of the matter is that it's a factor in the calculations. Thanks for proving my point though.
Thanks for proving my point by admitting it doesn't work.
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Originally posted by JRice80
Originally posted by wallysmith
Originally posted by JRice80
Lol. Bort says that vision works for HBs too.
Whether or not it works properly or not isn't the question... the fact of the matter is that it's a factor in the calculations. Thanks for proving my point though.
Thanks for proving my point by admitting it doesn't work.
Wow, you're really not getting it are you... way to make a fallacious argument. Clearly this is a game that is far from being finished, and whether or not ANYTHING works properly is constantly being debated, but it doesn't change the fact that blocking is a part of the "shed block" equation; I haven't seen you refute that yet.
I said blocking isn't entirely useless, you said it is, and I proved that it isn't. Game, set, match.
Originally posted by wallysmith
Originally posted by JRice80
Lol. Bort says that vision works for HBs too.
Whether or not it works properly or not isn't the question... the fact of the matter is that it's a factor in the calculations. Thanks for proving my point though.
Thanks for proving my point by admitting it doesn't work.
Wow, you're really not getting it are you... way to make a fallacious argument. Clearly this is a game that is far from being finished, and whether or not ANYTHING works properly is constantly being debated, but it doesn't change the fact that blocking is a part of the "shed block" equation; I haven't seen you refute that yet.
I said blocking isn't entirely useless, you said it is, and I proved that it isn't. Game, set, match.
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Originally posted by wallysmith
Originally posted by JRice80
Originally posted by wallysmith
Originally posted by JRice80
Lol. Bort says that vision works for HBs too.
Whether or not it works properly or not isn't the question... the fact of the matter is that it's a factor in the calculations. Thanks for proving my point though.
Thanks for proving my point by admitting it doesn't work.
Wow, you're really not getting it are you... way to make a fallacious argument. Clearly this is a game that is far from being finished, and whether or not ANYTHING works properly is constantly being debated, but it doesn't change the fact that blocking is a part of the "shed block" equation; I haven't seen you refute that yet.
I said blocking isn't entirely useless, you said it is, and I proved that it isn't. Game, set, match.
Wow, you're really not getting it are you...?
Blocking is what, maybe the 8th or 9th thing that decides whether or not you shed a block? Pretty much everyone I've ever talked to with a successful DE build (tjking82 comes to mind) has told me they don't even train blocking since it does nothing. And you think it's valuable for LBs?
You can keep trying to e-win, but you're completely wrong. I'd try to get my posts in before anyone else comes in here, if I were you.
Originally posted by JRice80
Originally posted by wallysmith
Originally posted by JRice80
Lol. Bort says that vision works for HBs too.
Whether or not it works properly or not isn't the question... the fact of the matter is that it's a factor in the calculations. Thanks for proving my point though.
Thanks for proving my point by admitting it doesn't work.
Wow, you're really not getting it are you... way to make a fallacious argument. Clearly this is a game that is far from being finished, and whether or not ANYTHING works properly is constantly being debated, but it doesn't change the fact that blocking is a part of the "shed block" equation; I haven't seen you refute that yet.
I said blocking isn't entirely useless, you said it is, and I proved that it isn't. Game, set, match.
Wow, you're really not getting it are you...?
Blocking is what, maybe the 8th or 9th thing that decides whether or not you shed a block? Pretty much everyone I've ever talked to with a successful DE build (tjking82 comes to mind) has told me they don't even train blocking since it does nothing. And you think it's valuable for LBs?
You can keep trying to e-win, but you're completely wrong. I'd try to get my posts in before anyone else comes in here, if I were you.
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Originally posted by fallingmercury
It helps so little that its not even noticeable. It helps less than say, putting points into strength/agility/vision....
Originally posted by HydrOshocK
no, don't waste your points on a myth.
Originally posted by chazno
Its a myth in that no one has ever seen tangible results from it. Everyone has seen that quote and people have tried to prove it, no one has.
Originally posted by Neoprxis
It made one of my DEs pass rushing bar go up, so it must be totally worth it.
Originally posted by wallysmith
Game, set, match.
It helps so little that its not even noticeable. It helps less than say, putting points into strength/agility/vision....
Originally posted by HydrOshocK
no, don't waste your points on a myth.
Originally posted by chazno
Its a myth in that no one has ever seen tangible results from it. Everyone has seen that quote and people have tried to prove it, no one has.
Originally posted by Neoprxis
It made one of my DEs pass rushing bar go up, so it must be totally worth it.
Originally posted by wallysmith
Game, set, match.
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Originally posted by Knock_U_out
Bort has confirmed many things that doesn't work!!
Originally posted by Dudly
Originally posted by DiMo28
Many tests with most indicating that blocking does very little if anything to help break blocks.
it is a secondary att, which suggests that it has value, but I would still put experimental points into jumping before blocking.
Originally posted by hiimjake
in my experiene it doesn't much, if anything at all
Originally posted by Dudly
Originally posted by Lifebleeder
One of my DE's has 32 blocking, and I saw insignificant change.
sounds right
Bort has confirmed many things that doesn't work!!
Originally posted by Dudly
Originally posted by DiMo28
Many tests with most indicating that blocking does very little if anything to help break blocks.
it is a secondary att, which suggests that it has value, but I would still put experimental points into jumping before blocking.
Originally posted by hiimjake
in my experiene it doesn't much, if anything at all
Originally posted by Dudly
Originally posted by Lifebleeder
One of my DE's has 32 blocking, and I saw insignificant change.
sounds right
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Congratulations on putting in the effort of getting all these quotes; none of them refute my point. I never quanitified the value of Blocking in a build, just that it brings SOME worth to an AE piece, no matter how miniscule it is; ie, a piece of Superior Vision with +1 Blocking is better than a piece of Superior Vision with nothing on it.
And this has all been backed up by the actual developer of the game. I don't care how many peoples' opinions you quote, the fact is that Blocking plays a role for defensive players; that's it.
And this has all been backed up by the actual developer of the game. I don't care how many peoples' opinions you quote, the fact is that Blocking plays a role for defensive players; that's it.
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Originally posted by JRice80
Blocking is what, maybe the 8th or 9th thing that decides whether or not you shed a block? Pretty much everyone I've ever talked to with a successful DE build (tjking82 comes to mind) has told me they don't even train blocking since it does nothing. And you think it's valuable for LBs?
You can keep trying to e-win, but you're completely wrong. I'd try to get my posts in before anyone else comes in here, if I were you.
For the record, I've never once suggested Blocking is valuable for an LB, nor any defensive player for that matter. All I've said was that is part of the equation; way to take things out of context.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1031209&page=last#15522364
Blocking is what, maybe the 8th or 9th thing that decides whether or not you shed a block? Pretty much everyone I've ever talked to with a successful DE build (tjking82 comes to mind) has told me they don't even train blocking since it does nothing. And you think it's valuable for LBs?
You can keep trying to e-win, but you're completely wrong. I'd try to get my posts in before anyone else comes in here, if I were you.
For the record, I've never once suggested Blocking is valuable for an LB, nor any defensive player for that matter. All I've said was that is part of the equation; way to take things out of context.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1031209&page=last#15522364
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