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i thought his team was an unstoppable force? did he kill himself yet?

Vaadwaur Phoenix=GOAT
 
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Yeah we lost, but still not as many people laughed about it like this beatdown

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=291204
 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Yeah we lost, but still not as many people laughed about it like this beatdown

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=291204


we dont really care. the results of this game are mostly out of our hands, so why flip about it.

so i guess you havent topped yourself yet. i guess it requires 2 losses or 6 gutted teams, whichever comes first?
 
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Probably will have a 2nd loss some time this season, I said we would before this season, there are just that many more competitive teams in the league now.

It actually isnt the fact that we lost .. its the fact that our CBs just up and stopped covering people.

But yeah .. I guess I was just on the other end of a Bort-nerf-broken-GLB fantastic game and I wasnt pleased about it. I have been accepting of the fact that 50% of the time my advanced AI, that I spend WAY too much time on, doesnt get followed by the sim engine exactly as I have it programmed. But usually we have been saved that our builds are really good and it doesnt even much matter what defense we play, we shut people down, because we have a large level, build and depth advantage on most teams (to be completely honest).

But then when some of our players just stop playing .. I mean their dots just freeze and stop doing what they should be doing .. yeah thats upsetting.

I guess I was just in the same boat as some other people and it taught me a lesson about the fact that the game is relatively out of our hands, the dots decide what they want to do and essentially it comes down to whatever random shit that the sim engine wants to do and what mistakes Bort has made with the code, all other things equal.
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so when you win its your game plan but when you lose its the sim?
 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Probably will have a 2nd loss some time this season, I said we would before this season, there are just that many more competitive teams in the league now.

It actually isnt the fact that we lost .. its the fact that our CBs just up and stopped covering people.

But yeah .. I guess I was just on the other end of a Bort-nerf-broken-GLB fantastic game and I wasnt pleased about it. I have been accepting of the fact that 50% of the time my advanced AI, that I spend WAY too much time on, doesnt get followed by the sim engine exactly as I have it programmed. But usually we have been saved that our builds are really good and it doesnt even much matter what defense we play, we shut people down, because we have a large level, build and depth advantage on most teams (to be completely honest).

But then when some of our players just stop playing .. I mean their dots just freeze and stop doing what they should be doing .. yeah thats upsetting.

I guess I was just in the same boat as some other people and it taught me a lesson about the fact that the game is relatively out of our hands, the dots decide what they want to do and essentially it comes down to whatever random shit that the sim engine wants to do and what mistakes Bort has made with the code, all other things equal.


no one cares to read that.
 
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Originally posted by naki
so when you win its your game plan but when you lose its the sim?


strong unaware of the misc. we never really talk about "great gameplan. win!"

we really dont care, and bort screwing up the game makes us care less about the results each time something ridiculous happens (even if its in our favor)
 
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Originally posted by thegenerel
Originally posted by naki

so when you win its your game plan but when you lose its the sim?


strong unaware of the misc. we never really talk about "great gameplan. win!"

we really dont care, and bort screwing up the game makes us care less about the results each time something ridiculous happens (even if its in our favor)




That was directed to randy. I didnt know I wasnt supposed to read his posts and respond to them.
 
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Originally posted by naki
Originally posted by thegenerel

Originally posted by naki


so when you win its your game plan but when you lose its the sim?


strong unaware of the misc. we never really talk about "great gameplan. win!"

we really dont care, and bort screwing up the game makes us care less about the results each time something ridiculous happens (even if its in our favor)




That was directed to randy. I didnt know I wasnt supposed to read his posts and respond to them.


oh yea, randy seems to think that way. in due time you will grow to have a strong dislike towards him too.

you can respond but any discussion usually is diverted to how great he is, his team is, or how he thinks EE Pro could be "fixed"

he also likes to discuss shemale-donkey pr0n
 
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Is the Donkey a shemale or is it a shemale with a donkey?
 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Probably will have a 2nd loss some time this season, I said we would before this season, there are just that many more competitive teams in the league now.

It actually isnt the fact that we lost .. its the fact that our CBs just up and stopped covering people.

But yeah .. I guess I was just on the other end of a Bort-nerf-broken-GLB fantastic game and I wasnt pleased about it. I have been accepting of the fact that 50% of the time my advanced AI, that I spend WAY too much time on, doesnt get followed by the sim engine exactly as I have it programmed. But usually we have been saved that our builds are really good and it doesnt even much matter what defense we play, we shut people down, because we have a large level, build and depth advantage on most teams (to be completely honest).

But then when some of our players just stop playing .. I mean their dots just freeze and stop doing what they should be doing .. yeah thats upsetting.

I guess I was just in the same boat as some other people and it taught me a lesson about the fact that the game is relatively out of our hands, the dots decide what they want to do and essentially it comes down to whatever random shit that the sim engine wants to do and what mistakes Bort has made with the code, all other things equal.


Randy, sometimes it seems like you don't know this... but everyone experiences their CBs fucking up from time to time. Everyone experiences quirks in the sim. It's not just you. The difference is that most of us don't use that as the reason we lose. I may be stating the obvious for everyone else here, but I suspect you sincerely don't think this is true - it is.
 
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Originally posted by thegenerel

strong unaware of the misc. we never really talk about "great gameplan. win!"

we really dont care, and bort screwing up the game makes us care less about the results each time something ridiculous happens (even if its in our favor)


Yes .. the whole "butthurt" thing lately has been mostly a realization of what you said right there .. and for me that is particularly painful because I do care .. I dont know how not to.

 
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Where's serialced when you need him? I seem to recall this little nugget of wisdom when the Misc lost.

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1) we didnt lose to your team
2) you're a fag
3) see #2


 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Originally posted by thegenerel


strong unaware of the misc. we never really talk about "great gameplan. win!"

we really dont care, and bort screwing up the game makes us care less about the results each time something ridiculous happens (even if its in our favor)


Yes .. the whole "butthurt" thing lately has been mostly a realization of what you said right there .. and for me that is particularly painful because I do care .. I dont know how not to.



well that is ridiculous and if you care so much then you have serious issues.

let bort go and if he loves you, then he will return.
 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
It actually isnt the fact that we lost .. its the fact that our CBs just up and stopped covering people.

But yeah .. I guess I was just on the other end of a Bort-nerf-broken-GLB fantastic game and I wasnt pleased about it. I have been accepting of the fact that 50% of the time my advanced AI, that I spend WAY too much time on, doesnt get followed by the sim engine exactly as I have it programmed. But usually we have been saved that our builds are really good and it doesnt even much matter what defense we play, we shut people down, because we have a large level, build and depth advantage on most teams (to be completely honest).

But then when some of our players just stop playing .. I mean their dots just freeze and stop doing what they should be doing .. yeah thats upsetting.

I guess I was just in the same boat as some other people and it taught me a lesson about the fact that the game is relatively out of our hands, the dots decide what they want to do and essentially it comes down to whatever random shit that the sim engine wants to do and what mistakes Bort has made with the code, all other things equal.


I can't believe you're STILL trying to discredit our win. It was gameplanning that won (or in your case, lost) this game, not "whatever random shit the sim engine wants to do."

If your AI is set right, you have it set to follow it exactly, and have auto-adjust at 0, then it will follow your AI exactly. I've yet to find a play that was called that wasn't actually in my AI that wasn't my fault. Keep in mind that it always starts at the top and works it's way down, and that even 1 wrong input near the top can make the sim ignore the rest of your inputs.

For instance, last season I was having bunch of problems with the AI, and it turned out it was because one of the inputs at the very top that was supposed to be 1st down only was set to downs 1 through 4, so it was only calling that one input the whole time.

As for your CBs freezing, that's called pump fake. If you would've scouted Phoenix you probably would've seen that our QB has been doing that quite a bit this year, and could've left another safety in coverage to make up for it. None of these things that you're complaining about are actually out of your hands at all, but rather products of your failure to scout and gameplan properly.
 
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