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Grim Truth
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So, I'm pretty used to building Corners which when it comes to tackling and strength aren't very... Well, experimenting with it or trying to test them out is useless. A strong corner is just a CB you have to bench for being burnt every other play.

My point is, I'm wondering if Strength and Tackling are completely needed in exact proportion of one another. What I mean to say is, has anyone made a Safety build as just said "**** strength, I'll load into tackling"? Or the other way around? Does one NEED the other?

My thought is that strength more effects hard hits and forcing fumbles while tackling is tackling. Have 50 tackling at 20 strength you'll still tackle with the same frequency as a player with 50/50 but with less fumbles caused.

Again, I have never tested this, and my career with CB's has never had me think about this. So... Am I close? Is one useful without the other, or do they need to be together?
 
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for both FS and CBs, i like to keep them about even simply b/c i do intense training and i wouldn't spend any points there. i'll train them just enough so that they don't get run over constantly. in doing so, i train them together so end up about equal.

all of my players are fairly young though, so i guess i might look at throwing a few points there later in their careers, after the primary's are where i want them.
 
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From experience. with high str and low tackling as a S.S. you will miss a lot of tackles. then I slowly built the tackling up and am at a place where I can play on power tackling and hardly miss tackles. I have not experimented with high tackling, low str. Maybe someone else has and can talk about that.
 
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SS's needed tackling to the first cap, strength allows them to break blocks easier and helps with causing fumbles. Strength isnt as important to get to the first soft cap but down the road it should eventually hit the soft cap.

SS's need to tackle, period.
 
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Originally posted by mogs01gt
SS's needed tackling to the first cap, strength allows them to break blocks easier and helps with causing fumbles. Strength isnt as important to get to the first soft cap but down the road it should eventually hit the soft cap.

SS's need to tackle, period.


no one really needs capped tackling at this point in GLB. tbh.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by mogs01gt

SS's needed tackling to the first cap, strength allows them to break blocks easier and helps with causing fumbles. Strength isnt as important to get to the first soft cap but down the road it should eventually hit the soft cap.
SS's need to tackle, period.

no one really needs capped tackling at this point in GLB. tbh.

umm yes you do. With Power Running backs being as strong as they are, you better hope you Cap tackling.
 
Capaneus
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For FSs at least, prioritizing tackling over strength has worked for me.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by mogs01gt

SS's needed tackling to the first cap, strength allows them to break blocks easier and helps with causing fumbles. Strength isnt as important to get to the first soft cap but down the road it should eventually hit the soft cap.

SS's need to tackle, period.


no one really needs capped tackling at this point in GLB. tbh.


Yes you do. With a healthy helping of Wrap Up SA and Sure Tackle Vet ability <-- Best way to bring down powerbacks now)
 
BlueBez
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Originally posted by Capaneus
For FSs at least, prioritizing tackling over strength has worked for me.


same here, very few missed tackles that way

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Underdawg08
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Originally posted by mogs01gt
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by mogs01gt


SS's needed tackling to the first cap, strength allows them to break blocks easier and helps with causing fumbles. Strength isnt as important to get to the first soft cap but down the road it should eventually hit the soft cap.
SS's need to tackle, period.

no one really needs capped tackling at this point in GLB. tbh.

umm yes you do. With Power Running backs being as strong as they are, you better hope you Cap tackling.


ummmm ok if you say so.
 
Blamo
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Strength helps tackling, so having high tackling with low strength isn't very effective. If you're building a safety, though, you can get by with a lot less of both if you put a point or two into the Wrap Up Tackle SA. My SS was missing bunches of tackles last season, but then I put one point into Wrap Up Tackle and I missed only a couple of tackles for the rest of the season, and only one tackle so far this season. It's a really good crutch to have IMO.
 
mouldsie
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my SS has capped both strength and tackling... he's been a tackling machine this season and havent missed a tackle yet

 
Riggs_Inator
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Originally posted by mogs01gt
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by mogs01gt


SS's needed tackling to the first cap, strength allows them to break blocks easier and helps with causing fumbles. Strength isnt as important to get to the first soft cap but down the road it should eventually hit the soft cap.
SS's need to tackle, period.

no one really needs capped tackling at this point in GLB. tbh.

umm yes you do. With Power Running backs being as strong as they are, you better hope you Cap tackling.


What would you say if: I said I have below 40 tackling and have missed 2 tackles in the past 20 games?

Even against one of the premiere power HB's (Larry Csonka) I missed 0 tackles and made 4 tackles on him.

And people say Power HB's are overpowered heh.
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Originally posted by Riggs_Inator


What would you say if: I said I have below 40 tackling and have missed 2 tackles in the past 20 games?

Even against one of the premiere power HB's (Larry Csonka) I missed 0 tackles and made 4 tackles on him.

And people say Power HB's are overpowered heh.


well I hope you would with that many people hitting him and slowing him down
Larry Csonka rush [missed tackle: Horace Yates] [missed tackle: Strak Attack (Power Through)] [missed tackle: The Hurt (Power Through)] to the left (2.5 yd gain) [tackle: Riggs Inator]
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=289155&pbp_id=2619993

and as slow as he went through the pack here, its a wonder he was even touched
Larry Csonka rush [missed tackle: Horace Yates] up the middle (3.5 yd gain) [tackle: Riggs Inator]
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=289155&pbp_id=2620685
or this one
Larry Csonka rush [missed tackle: Horace Yates] to the left (4 yd gain) [tackle: Riggs Inator]
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=289155&pbp_id=2625781
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Underdawg08
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Originally posted by Riggs_Inator
Originally posted by mogs01gt

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by mogs01gt



SS's needed tackling to the first cap, strength allows them to break blocks easier and helps with causing fumbles. Strength isnt as important to get to the first soft cap but down the road it should eventually hit the soft cap.
SS's need to tackle, period.

no one really needs capped tackling at this point in GLB. tbh.

umm yes you do. With Power Running backs being as strong as they are, you better hope you Cap tackling.


What would you say if: I said I have below 40 tackling and have missed 2 tackles in the past 20 games?

Even against one of the premiere power HB's (Larry Csonka) I missed 0 tackles and made 4 tackles on him.

And people say Power HB's are overpowered heh.


I'm with you. I play on power tackling with 36 tackling but a lot of str. The only time he misses tackles is when he played the power back of our league. I could have set it on wrap up and missed none. But I was living for the power!

It's widely known tackling is over rated right now. I have known it for a long time. if you put more than 10 points in it before training it to 25-30 you're wasting.
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