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Does anyone really know how to build a successful elusive back? Even tea baggins has bad games against good competition and he's suppose to be the best ever.

I know power backs can be more successful. But does anyone out there actually have an elusive back who runs on elusive that can tear up an equal level team like he tears up a cupcake?

well considering the hbs are nerfed again. hbs only seem to be good against bad competition. it seems every season it goes back and forth. Last season hbs could dominate good teams, this season a running based team is screwed. The inside run is basically worthless unless you out level the opposing team.

so your answer, in my opinion for this season is it doesnt matter because we are all gonna suck against equal or better competition.

Step 1: Make a dominant offensive line that is nerf proof. (Good at everything, not just strength strength strength strength and pancake SA)
Step 2: Run the ball.
Step 3: Hope there aren't any shitty players that whine for a nerf because they craptastic build gets exposed.

"Oh boo hoo, I can't tackle this guy with 95 strength. My 30 strength and tackling should never fail." Type people.

say you have a back with 51 str 98 speed and 64 agility.

your carrying is 38
your vision is 36
your stamina is 36
and your confidence is 36
edited I looked lol

Do you think you would get the most benifit for vision or carrying as an elusive back. Basically what I'm saying is where would you go? I will have 5 sp's they are going in one of those 4 I pretty much ruled stamina out for now.

I use to run on combo with him, But I wanted to try out the slippery v.a. and just like all things elusive,it sucks right now because you have to run on at least 50 percent elusive. I want to go back to running o combo maybe soon.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
say you have a back with 51 str 98 speed and 64 agility.

your carrying is 37
your vision is 36
your stamina is 35
and your confidence is 35

Do you think you would get the most benifit for vision or carrying as an elusive back. Basically what I'm saying is where would you go? I will have 5 sp's they are going in one of those 4 I pretty much ruled stamina out for now.

For an "elusive" back? I'd say agility personally. Then Vision and Confidence. 98 speed 64 agility = more of a straight line runner imo. Speed/Agility should be closer to be more "elusive" imo.

Originally posted by Riggs_Inator
Originally posted by UnderDogs

say you have a back with 51 str 98 speed and 64 agility.

your carrying is 37
your vision is 36
your stamina is 35
and your confidence is 35

Do you think you would get the most benifit for vision or carrying as an elusive back. Basically what I'm saying is where would you go? I will have 5 sp's they are going in one of those 4 I pretty much ruled stamina out for now.

For an "elusive" back? I'd say agility personally. Then Vision and Confidence. 98 speed 64 agility = more of a straight line runner imo. Speed/Agility should be closer to be more "elusive" imo.

oh yeah Ur right about that, just now switched the custom over from agility, he use to be 92/70.

I think I am pretty happy with where speed and agility is for this moment in time.

I am either thinking 5 in carrying or 5 in vision, leaning towards vision. but will it make a lot of difference?

I could even have him a 72/90 doesn't seem to work much better

Yeah, 72/90 could make some good jukes I bet, but wouldn't have the speed to make many yards before the guy recovers. I'd probably do Carrying or Vision then intense train (The other) + Confidence to 40+

I'm personally not a huge fan of vision/carrying.

It's pretty difficult to build a successful ANYTHING when you're trying to hit a moving target every season. My HB has been historically solid, due in large part to game planning and a good OL, but he's taken a pretty big hit so far this season. I'm adjusting his gear. . . again. . . and we'll see if that helps.

id say vision

Originally posted by taurran
I'm personally not a huge fan of vision/carrying.

I don't understand it. I have that same mentality. But the back up on my team has lower speed, str, and agility, than mine, yet he consistanly performs better. he has less than my confidence. he has less than my stamina. but he has 50 carrying and 50 vision. I have A LOT more s.a's and he has hardly any. Yet he performs better consistently. I have to think it's vision or carrying, and I am just trying to pinpoint it.

Originally posted by kingofgod
id say vision

Thanks, that's what I am thinking as well. did you notice better play when you brought vision up?

I would go with carrying tbh. Ive been researching the best Power Backs as mine is struggling this season too. What have I found. 2 level 40+ power backs with lower stats and SA's than my level 35 guy but with 50 carrying each. While our HB is averaging 3.8ypc in AA these guys are averaging over 10ypc in AAA.

Also looking at GLB in general it makes sense. Many positions rely on general attributes to be successful and will perform well with just these. Think FB's, TE's, WR's, LB'ers, Safties...if you pump speed, agilty and strength depending on position they will perform pretty well. Hoever each position has another stat that is semi tailored to them. e.g Lb - tackling (we know you can do without and not miss much, but want to make them all and you need it higher), TE, catching, pump speed, agility, str and blocking and youll have a decent TE. 35 catching will do him but he might drop a few. Pump that above cap and he no longer drops much.

So why wouldnt it be the same for a HB. Sure speed, str, agi are his raw ability but why wouldnt bort use carrying to decide how well they use these abilities? It makes sense. Hell any sprinter can run fast holding a football, but unless you know how to CARRY the football you would be pretty worthless with 11 guys lined up trying to kill you, as would your SA's.

Yes I have absolutely no proof about this other than the evidence that lower stat higher carrying backs seem to be performing MUCH better than lower carrying guys this season but it really does make sense to me that this is how it would be coded, just like the rest of the game.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by kingofgod

id say vision

Thanks, that's what I am thinking as well. did you notice better play when you brought vision up?

ya I am about to start focusing on it for my RB. I noticed a huge difference on my teams RB when she capped vision started to have cut back and weave though traffic better. Soon she will have it to the second cap

Heres a good example of her vision working. She follows the FB, finds the hole, makes a cut.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=296124&pbp_id=3885287

here carrying is capped as well

Originally posted by kingofgod
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by kingofgod


id say vision

Thanks, that's what I am thinking as well. did you notice better play when you brought vision up?

ya I am about to start focusing on it for my RB. I noticed a huge difference on my teams RB when she capped vision started to have cut back and weave though traffic better. Soon she will have it to the second cap

Heres a good example of her vision working. She follows the FB, finds the hole, makes a cut.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=296124&pbp_id=3885287

here carrying is capped as well

Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing. Having higher vision, where does her agent run the running style slider at?