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Soul31
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My theory is that at that point the OTs have caught up and it's really hard to beat them now between their builds and the S7 sim changes etc.

I know there are DEs are out there pulling it off somewhere, but they are hard to find.
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=292246&pbp_id=2671053

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=292246&pbp_id=2671687

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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=292246&pbp_id=2672429

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=339148

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=164305
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direfire
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=290622&pbp_id=1522711

40 vs 44

I think I just got lucky though.

 
Ksera
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level 41 DE vs level 44 OT.

Did it 5 times that game.
 
Motiak
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Originally posted by Ksera
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=295565&pbp_id=2405881

level 41 DE vs level 44 OT.

Did it 5 times that game.


Not to be a downer but all five of your sacks were screen pass sacks.
 
head1
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=292246&pbp_id=2671053

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=292246&pbp_id=2671687

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=292246&pbp_id=2672138

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=292246&pbp_id=2672429

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=339148

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=164305


When did 43 and 39 become equal?

And using David Amazing as an example isnt fair, hes just Amazing.
 
Soul31
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Underdog's Level 43 guy is widely considered one of the very best DEs in GLB and the OT is still 4 levels below him in the game which they won 25-0. He faced off versus a Level 41 and level 42 the next game which was much closer in score and got shut out (did get 4 hurries though). Not saying those aren't good examples though.

Ksera's DE got all his sacks versus the HB Screen which is buggered this season, everyone's getting sacks versus screens now for some reason.

Direfire's example is more indicative of the way DEs get sacks now versus equal OTs I think, they push the OT outside then cut inside. I've seen a number of these types of sacks when the competition is equal.


Ok, here's some research I did. I looked at the top 10 sack leaders in SEA Pro and both AAA leagues and looked for quality sacks versus cupcake sacks (vs level -5 OT or more). Here's the results:

24 DEs with 13 quality sacks and 188 cupcake sacks
5 LBs with 28 quality sacks and 19 cupcake sacks
1 DT with 1 quality sack and 6 cupcake sacks

Of those 13 quality DE sacks I'd say 9 of them looked like Direfire's up above.
Last edited Jan 8, 2009 10:08:33
 
Motiak
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David Amazing isn't Underdog's DE.
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by Motiak
David Amazing isn't Underdog's DE.


LOL@ him thinking it's mine.
 
Soul31
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I meant the DE he was referencing...
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316016&pbp_id=3641357

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316016&pbp_id=3642023

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316016&pbp_id=3642094

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316016&pbp_id=3642148

I did see that you said 40ish, but 36 is almost there. And the tackle's build isn't bad.
 
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Can we do a 34 DE dominating a 40 LT?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2858168
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2851956
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2851574
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2852089
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2852129
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2854725
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2854840
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2850861
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2850315
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2858132
 
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Originally posted by pottsman
Can we do a 34 DE dominating a 40 LT?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2858168
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2851956
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2851574
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2852089
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2853274
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2852129
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2851608
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2851937
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2854725
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2854840
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2850861
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2850315
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304749&pbp_id=2858132


2 Blitzers coming on every single one of these plays also. Bringing that many people is bound to leave someone open. Would be nice to see a true one on one situation.
 
Motiak
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Using blitzes doesn't diminish sacks in my mind, it's just good defensive pressure.
 
Kayoh
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Does the DE being only 2 levels above the T count?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=289156&pbp_id=3377094
 
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