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We have a pretty good rushing team against some of the best competition (51-54 teams with a 57 here and there). We have 2 power backs with similar skills. Without knowing who is who, let me know what back is the one that gest 8.7 ypc and about 10 broken tackles a game and which one averages 5.4 ypc and only 2-3 broken tackles a game... and tell me why you think so.

Power Back #1
6'0" 210 lbs
Strength:67.27 Blocking:16.52
Speed:84.89 Tackling:10
Agility:60.89 Throwing:16.52
Jumping:16.52 Catching:25.78
Stamina:39.1 Carrying:49.84
Vision:45.27 Kicking:8
Confidence:37.3 Punting:7

Elusive Back Abilities
22410

Power Back Abilities
34563



Power Back #2
6'1" 219lbs
Strength:61.89 Blocking:16.53
Speed:90.2 Tackling:7
Agility:61.2 Throwing:16.53
Jumping:22.53 Catching:27.42
Stamina:48.67 Carrying:50
Vision:33.1 Kicking:9
Confidence:41.76 Punting:7

Elusive Back Abilities
22411

Power Back Abilities
43473

There was one point where the "lesser" back had EVERY skill higher than the "greater" back and still didn't get nearly the jump at the start of the play...which is the real success of the "greater" back when you see replays. I'm just trying to recreate the success from one back to the other one, but can't for the life of me figure out how/why one is so much more dominating than the other one.

those aren't really powerbacks. they don't even have 70 strength. id say their combo.

Originally posted by Cutler2Marshall
those aren't really powerbacks. they don't even have 70 strength. id say their combo.

Yeah, shouldn't a true powerback's highest attribute be strength.

Are they running on the same Style?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Back #2 is the more successful of the two.

Both backs have very similar agility and carrying, which makes me think that neither are the reason one breaks more tackles than the other.

I think the lesser Vision on Back #2 might be part of the reason he hits the hole faster - he's not looking for the best path but just going for it. His higher Power Through, even if it's only by 1, I think definitely contributes to more Broken Tackles. I think his higher Stamina would also allow him to play at a higher level for longer.

Of course I'm probably wrong, but that's my guess and why.

Well, you're absolutely right... #2 has been dominant since he was created. We have speculated that there is a "hidden" attribute that caused him to be better (we discovered the same thing about 2 equal skilled QB's).

There was one time that HB #1 had every skill (except 1 pt in first step) above #2, including vision and #2 still was so much faster. That is when I gave up and started to try different stuff.

I thought it was vision as well, but we were in a league with a team that had the #1 and #2 backs (our guy was #3) and both of their guys had vision above the 2:1 softcap and they hit the hole just as fast, if not faster than our guy. That is when I stopped being afraid of a little vision... and realized that there was more that Bort isn't telling us...

Was his confidence always higher?

Who is the starter and backup? Does one HB come in pound the defense to wear them done, and the second come in versus the backups or a tired D? Does one get more goalline carries that discretely lowers his ypc?

Veteran abilities?

the number of carries a back gets and when they play in a game makes a big difference in their over all performance. They have differnt stats, even though they have similar builds, because they aren't played the same.

2nd back also plays fresher against a more tired defense.

2nd back is the starter and 1st back is the backup.

They both have bruiser maxed out and goal line at about 5-6.

His confidence has always been roughly within 5 points, but yes it has been higher much of the time.

Originally posted by Viscount
Originally posted by Cutler2Marshall

those aren't really powerbacks. they don't even have 70 strength. id say their combo.

Yeah, shouldn't a true powerback's highest attribute be strength.

Strong slow guys will just get gang tackled behind the line of scrimmage... We discovered early that the best thing to do is have speed as well as strength. They could technically be called combo backs, but they certainly are more power than elusive...and they play 80-100 power.

The Second back is 9lbs heavier (built in).
Also Power is created with Mass (weight) x speed.
#2 HB has both higher.

Originally posted by sew3663
Originally posted by Viscount

Originally posted by Cutler2Marshall


those aren't really powerbacks. they don't even have 70 strength. id say their combo.

Yeah, shouldn't a true powerback's highest attribute be strength.

Strong slow guys will just get gang tackled behind the line of scrimmage... We discovered early that the best thing to do is have speed as well as strength. They could technically be called combo backs, but they certainly are more power than elusive...and they play 80-100 power.

90 speed and 60 odd strength is more an elusive back than a power back - no matter what settings they run on.

My power back had 190 broken tackles last year and 40 tackled for a loss.
Our elusive back had 81 broken tackles last year and 31 tackled for a loss.

The TFL stat is not directly related to your backs speed, its more to do with your lines protection.

Small sample size.