i currently have closing speed, i drew superior vision though for the same slot. stick with closing speed or go with the vision. i have 50 vision and 67 speed right now.
KangarWhoDey
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Closing speed would be my choice. It'll cost you a ton of points to raise that attribute with it being at the end of the tree. And you'll have to spend points on growl and big hit to get there.
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definitely get superior vision you will want that to be at like 5 or 6 naturally, so it will be worth more to have the advanced equipment with it on it.
mnvikes8484
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oh and my superior vision is at 3 right now and baseline closing speed is 2 (4 w/ equipment)
Riggs_Inator
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What's your speed/agi/vision... because your scouting bar is really low. Best to do your attributes before SA's.
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imo, lvl. 21 is a bit low to be worrying about AE anyway. i think those 4 extra SP per season are still very valuable while working speed up to a natural 68 and AGI/VIS up to 60 (at least).
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wow, no way dude keep closing speed and don't use the bonus points for temp skill gains. both are great SAs to have, but it costs WAY more to raise closing speed. I have a SS so I don't know exactly what your skill tree looks like, but by the time you can upgrade that to +4 closing speed, thats what, 10 SP saved (if you raise CS by three or four yourself, it saves more like 15-20). with another 5 or 6 SP in a triple capped skill you got yourself at least 25 SP for free. Never use bonus tokens on temp bonuses, each SP and SA you upgrade it will be worth 3 SP once you get your core skills up, way better ruturn than the 1 SP you'd get with a temp bonus
also, don't worry about SAs until at least level 30, you probably have enough already. they are not worth it until you get your core skills up
also, don't worry about SAs until at least level 30, you probably have enough already. they are not worth it until you get your core skills up
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sushil33t
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Originally posted by gtthom86
wow, no way dude keep closing speed and don't use the bonus points for temp skill gains. both are great SAs to have, but it costs WAY more to raise closing speed. I have a SS so I don't know exactly what your skill tree looks like, but by the time you can upgrade that to +4 closing speed, thats what, 10 SP saved (if you raise CS by three or four yourself, it saves more like 15-20). with another 5 or 6 SP in a triple capped skill you got yourself at least 25 SP for free. Never use bonus tokens on temp bonuses, each SP and SA you upgrade it will be worth 3 SP once you get your core skills up, way better ruturn than the 1 SP you'd get with a temp bonus
also, don't worry about SAs until at least level 30, you probably have enough already. they are not worth it until you get your core skills up
^^ this
I have advanced equipment piece with +3 speed +3 vision +3 closing speed, thats so much better than getting 1 SP per four tokens
wow, no way dude keep closing speed and don't use the bonus points for temp skill gains. both are great SAs to have, but it costs WAY more to raise closing speed. I have a SS so I don't know exactly what your skill tree looks like, but by the time you can upgrade that to +4 closing speed, thats what, 10 SP saved (if you raise CS by three or four yourself, it saves more like 15-20). with another 5 or 6 SP in a triple capped skill you got yourself at least 25 SP for free. Never use bonus tokens on temp bonuses, each SP and SA you upgrade it will be worth 3 SP once you get your core skills up, way better ruturn than the 1 SP you'd get with a temp bonus
also, don't worry about SAs until at least level 30, you probably have enough already. they are not worth it until you get your core skills up
^^ this
I have advanced equipment piece with +3 speed +3 vision +3 closing speed, thats so much better than getting 1 SP per four tokens
Riggs_Inator
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Originally posted by sushil33t
Originally posted by gtthom86
wow, no way dude keep closing speed and don't use the bonus points for temp skill gains. both are great SAs to have, but it costs WAY more to raise closing speed. I have a SS so I don't know exactly what your skill tree looks like, but by the time you can upgrade that to +4 closing speed, thats what, 10 SP saved (if you raise CS by three or four yourself, it saves more like 15-20). with another 5 or 6 SP in a triple capped skill you got yourself at least 25 SP for free. Never use bonus tokens on temp bonuses, each SP and SA you upgrade it will be worth 3 SP once you get your core skills up, way better ruturn than the 1 SP you'd get with a temp bonus
also, don't worry about SAs until at least level 30, you probably have enough already. they are not worth it until you get your core skills up
^^ this
I have advanced equipment piece with +3 speed +3 vision +3 closing speed, thats so much better than getting 1 SP per four tokens
Yup. Trick is finding a good piece though. Been searching since advanced equip was released. Still havn't found anything worth sneezing at.
Originally posted by gtthom86
wow, no way dude keep closing speed and don't use the bonus points for temp skill gains. both are great SAs to have, but it costs WAY more to raise closing speed. I have a SS so I don't know exactly what your skill tree looks like, but by the time you can upgrade that to +4 closing speed, thats what, 10 SP saved (if you raise CS by three or four yourself, it saves more like 15-20). with another 5 or 6 SP in a triple capped skill you got yourself at least 25 SP for free. Never use bonus tokens on temp bonuses, each SP and SA you upgrade it will be worth 3 SP once you get your core skills up, way better ruturn than the 1 SP you'd get with a temp bonus
also, don't worry about SAs until at least level 30, you probably have enough already. they are not worth it until you get your core skills up
^^ this
I have advanced equipment piece with +3 speed +3 vision +3 closing speed, thats so much better than getting 1 SP per four tokens
Yup. Trick is finding a good piece though. Been searching since advanced equip was released. Still havn't found anything worth sneezing at.
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