if carrying helps you hold on to catch, wouldnt high carrying take out the bobble. Therefore eliminating any hesitation between catching the ball and running after the catch. It would be one fluid highlight reel. speedster + carrying = 5 yard slant TD? thoughts...
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- Pitch plays improved - I noticed that pitches were incurring the same "slow down because your catching sucks" penalty as normal passes. This has been removed, so pitches develop much faster, without the HB having to stop or slow down nearly as much.
- Pitch plays improved - I noticed that pitches were incurring the same "slow down because your catching sucks" penalty as normal passes. This has been removed, so pitches develop much faster, without the HB having to stop or slow down nearly as much.
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Originally posted by kcdizz
if carrying helps you hold on to catch, wouldnt high carrying take out the bobble. Therefore eliminating any hesitation between catching the ball and running after the catch. It would be one fluid highlight reel. speedster + carrying = 5 yard slant TD? thoughts...
Carrying doesn't take out the bobble, carrying reduces the chance to have the ball jarred loose in the process of catching. The majority of the cases of dropping the ball when hit stem from not enough catching, adding catching is pro-active, carrying is reactive, try to prevent the drop from happening at all. With high catching you will make the catch as seamless as possible thus not slowing down as much and risking the ball being jarred loose, you will also not bobble the ball as much, opening yourself up for a pick or drop.
if carrying helps you hold on to catch, wouldnt high carrying take out the bobble. Therefore eliminating any hesitation between catching the ball and running after the catch. It would be one fluid highlight reel. speedster + carrying = 5 yard slant TD? thoughts...
Carrying doesn't take out the bobble, carrying reduces the chance to have the ball jarred loose in the process of catching. The majority of the cases of dropping the ball when hit stem from not enough catching, adding catching is pro-active, carrying is reactive, try to prevent the drop from happening at all. With high catching you will make the catch as seamless as possible thus not slowing down as much and risking the ball being jarred loose, you will also not bobble the ball as much, opening yourself up for a pick or drop.
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After working on speed, agility, vision, confidence, jumping and catching....i'd work on carry/strength.
Of course, a slow strong possession guy that's gonna break a lot of tackles and get hit routinely by more than a CB might want to mover carrying up....it's all about the build you want.
My goal is to (eventually) soft cap carrying, but I haven't gotten to do anything more than the rare training on it.
Of course, a slow strong possession guy that's gonna break a lot of tackles and get hit routinely by more than a CB might want to mover carrying up....it's all about the build you want.
My goal is to (eventually) soft cap carrying, but I haven't gotten to do anything more than the rare training on it.
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well packman knows but my WR currently has 68 capped speed now working on 68 cap on agility, followed by softcap on catching and vision. just wondering if carrying would be an asset to that list.
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I would think so, but I don't know that I'd place it ahead of jumping.
If you want to keep track of where carrying *might* have helped...watch all your pass deflections and the ones where the pass is deflected after it looks like you caught the ball...carrying would have helped. So, very situational, but also helpful. If you can catch one more pass a game...that's anywhere from moving the chains to a TD.
This is of course in addition to any other benefit carrying might provide to running after the catch (helping break/avoid tackels/not fumbling)....etc.
If you want to keep track of where carrying *might* have helped...watch all your pass deflections and the ones where the pass is deflected after it looks like you caught the ball...carrying would have helped. So, very situational, but also helpful. If you can catch one more pass a game...that's anywhere from moving the chains to a TD.
This is of course in addition to any other benefit carrying might provide to running after the catch (helping break/avoid tackels/not fumbling)....etc.
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well jumping will be useless how many CBs take speed and agility straight to 68. Ill wave at them as I run by.
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Originally posted by kcdizz
well jumping will be useless how many CBs take speed and agility straight to 68. Ill wave at them as I run by.
The smart ones build CBs just like we build WRs. They just substitute Vision instead of Catching.
well jumping will be useless how many CBs take speed and agility straight to 68. Ill wave at them as I run by.
The smart ones build CBs just like we build WRs. They just substitute Vision instead of Catching.
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Originally posted by kcdizz
well jumping will be useless how many CBs take speed and agility straight to 68. Ill wave at them as I run by.
All my CBs take speed and agility to the 60 cap. You having 8 extra points of speed and agility is not enough to run past me. Throws are seldom perfect, and your below cap catching (soon to be soft cap catching) slows you down allowing me to catch up and hit you.
I have built all my WR to be more or less what you would see on an NFL team. I have a speedster, I have an agility guy, I have a catching guy.
My speedster doesn't blow anyone away, but if he gets a good matchup, he is good for a long ball or two. My agility guy gets open great on crossing routes and out routs, and my catching guy is slow enough that I usually can't even see his dot he is so well covered, just he still gets catches.
My theory is, that no matter what D I face, one of these guys will get a good match up. I guess you could build the perfect counter CBs and shut me down, but my little plan seems to work.
well jumping will be useless how many CBs take speed and agility straight to 68. Ill wave at them as I run by.
All my CBs take speed and agility to the 60 cap. You having 8 extra points of speed and agility is not enough to run past me. Throws are seldom perfect, and your below cap catching (soon to be soft cap catching) slows you down allowing me to catch up and hit you.
I have built all my WR to be more or less what you would see on an NFL team. I have a speedster, I have an agility guy, I have a catching guy.
My speedster doesn't blow anyone away, but if he gets a good matchup, he is good for a long ball or two. My agility guy gets open great on crossing routes and out routs, and my catching guy is slow enough that I usually can't even see his dot he is so well covered, just he still gets catches.
My theory is, that no matter what D I face, one of these guys will get a good match up. I guess you could build the perfect counter CBs and shut me down, but my little plan seems to work.
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Your argument is that you allow him to catch the ball and then tackle him and that makes you a good CB?
Sweet! Spread this information on the CB forums.
Sweet! Spread this information on the CB forums.
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