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Ok, I don't own a QB, so I don't know anything about building them, and I'm looking for some opinions from guys who have them. Basically what I'm looking for is opinions and debate on what kind of balance you want between Strength, Throwing, and Vision.

Assuming that all of the other skills are at "good build" levels, all equal to eachother, and you have 3 QBs with these attributes:

QB1-----------QB2-----------QB3
Str: 50--------Str: 52--------Str: 62
Thr: 87-------Thr: 75-------Thr: 75
Vis: 68--------Vis: 70--------Vis: 68

Assuming that all other attributes and SAs are equal among these three QBs, who do you like better?

I would take QB1, but I wouldn't take vision above 60. I would invest those points in either confidence/tight spiral/pocket presence.

none of them
too much vision on these builds

I would take QB 4

Strength - 65
Throwing - 87
Vision - 55

Originally posted by kingofgod
I would take QB 4

Strength - 65
Throwing - 87
Vision - 55

Not that i know too much about QBs but I would have to agree with this.

QB 4

Even with equip over 60 vision is too high? Why?

Originally posted by kostitsyn
Even with equip over 60 vision is too high? Why?

you cant have it too high. I just believe that strength and throwing should both be higher then vision.

there seems to be a growing trend that vision isn't that useful to QBs as they don't make the decision to throw any faster and I saw a few examples of people that said they had high vision hold on to the ball too long and take a sack while completely missing an open man. I don't know how high their vision is or what other settings they were using, but the examples were pretty bad. I brought my vision to the second soft cap and I have no problem with that. I'm not planning on spending another SP on it though.

As for strength Vs Throwing Throwing is by far the most important attribute. I'm working on bringing throwing to the 4-1 soft cap right now and then bring strength to the next. I've tried setting equipment on vision and on strength, but everything should go onto throwing until it reaches 100. I do think there is a correlation between dropped passes and strength, but I think it has to do with low throwing. The higher your strength the higher your throwing should be in my opinion.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=596110 is a great example of a high strength QB. You can obviously see the benefit in strength as he has only thrown 1 INT in 2 seasons, but he has a lot of drops which I equate to his throwing not being at least 20 points higher. I'm not saying he has insanely high amount of drops by his WR, just more than usual. I could be wrong because it's just a guessing game without knowing bort's code.

In a nutshell strength is the best way to prevent interceptions, but without high throwing it's pointless.

here is the thread about vision

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1454022&page=1

i would pick #1 only because i seen better results with

1. throwing
2. vision
3. strenth

thats just me tho.

Originally posted by Ilok
there seems to be a growing trend that vision isn't that useful to QBs as they don't make the decision to throw any faster and I saw a few examples of people that said they had high vision hold on to the ball too long and take a sack while completely missing an open man. I don't know how high their vision is or what other settings they were using, but the examples were pretty bad. I brought my vision to the second soft cap and I have no problem with that. I'm not planning on spending another SP on it though.

As for strength Vs Throwing Throwing is by far the most important attribute. I'm working on bringing throwing to the 4-1 soft cap right now and then bring strength to the next. I've tried setting equipment on vision and on strength, but everything should go onto throwing until it reaches 100. I do think there is a correlation between dropped passes and strength, but I think it has to do with low throwing. The higher your strength the higher your throwing should be in my opinion.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=596110 is a great example of a high strength QB. You can obviously see the benefit in strength as he has only thrown 1 INT in 2 seasons, but he has a lot of drops which I equate to his throwing not being at least 20 points higher. I'm not saying he has insanely high amount of drops by his WR, just more than usual. I could be wrong because it's just a guessing game without knowing bort's code.

In a nutshell strength is the best way to prevent interceptions, but without high throwing it's pointless.

I had a lot of problems with drops last season but this season I think it has been fine. (I added 2 into tight spiral over offseason) I am okay with about 3 drops per game. I would much rather have that then 1 interception every three games.

I agree with you that the drops are because of strength mainly because defenders never catch the ball when I throw it right at them and they just dont have high enough catch to get it

yeah i meant to say drops/deflections. A few people I've talked to that have high strength QBs also said their deflection rate was pretty high too, which most agreed that a lot of those should of been picks, but the CBs couldn't catch it. Regardless of that, strength stops interceptions plan and simple. It's your choice to have a slightly lower completion rating to have less picks or a higher completion rating with more picks. I think the cure is to have high throwing to go with high strength, but I think you should have high throwing if you have low strength too.

Vision really an enigma because you can't tell what progression your QB takes when making the read.

Also I have found the high a skill gets the lower the impact has. 10 points from 40-50 has more of an impact on your player than 10 points from 50-60. Vision and confidence seems to me have a lot less of an impact from 50-60 than strength and throwing from 50-60.

Originally posted by Ilok
yeah i meant to say drops/deflections. A few people I've talked to that have high strength QBs also said their deflection rate was pretty high too, which most agreed that a lot of those should of been picks, but the CBs couldn't catch it. Regardless of that, strength stops interceptions plan and simple. It's your choice to have a slightly lower completion rating to have less picks or a higher completion rating with more picks. I think the cure is to have high throwing to go with high strength, but I think you should have high throwing if you have low strength too.

Vision really an enigma because you can't tell what progression your QB takes when making the read.

Also I have found the high a skill gets the lower the impact has. 10 points from 40-50 has more of an impact on your player than 10 points from 50-60. Vision and confidence seems to me have a lot less of an impact from 50-60 than strength and throwing from 50-60.

Well, next season we will see what happens with high strength and having my throwing higher. i am planning on getting throwing to the 4:1 cap then with equipment it will be about eighty and I will have hit the 3:1 cap on strength so that will be about 68ish.

that's what I'm planning on doing with Wally too. I'm just going at it a little differently.