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I built most of the offensive line for my team. Now in the low 30s, I find myself with a bit of a situation. My players are all getting to 68+ str/blocking to go with 48+ speed/agility/vision. None of them have points spent in SAs. Do they really need SAs? Would taking more attributes to 60 be better?

Originally posted by Vanzetti-Guard

Strength: 97.2
Blocking: 75.2
Speed: 48.1
Tackling: 17.56
Agility: 49.25
Throwing: 8
Jumping: 7
Catching: 7
Stamina: 37.98
Carrying: 8
Vision: 49.05
Kicking: 8
Confidence: 41.2
Punting: 7

0,0,0,0,0
3,1,1,1,1 (custom and advanced)


Originally posted by Skolnick-Center

Strength: 105.94
Blocking: 77.94
Speed: 48.69
Tackling: 15.59
Agility: 49.8
Throwing: 8
Jumping: 9
Catching: 9
Stamina: 35.45
Carrying: 8
Vision: 43.91
Kicking: 8
Confidence: 26.47
Punting: 8

0,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,1


Originally posted by Lowell-Tackle

Strength: 66.18
Blocking: 92.18
Speed: 48.66
Tackling: 23.99
Agility: 50.14
Throwing: 9
Jumping: 9
Catching: 8
Stamina: 34.92
Carrying: 8
Vision: 40.14
Kicking: 9
Confidence: 31.8
Punting: 9

1,1,1,1,1
0,0,0,0,0


Originally posted by Dawson-Tackle

Strength: 95.18
Blocking: 68.18
Speed: 48.4
Tackling: 23.99
Agility: 50.23
Throwing: 9
Jumping: 8
Catching: 8
Stamina: 36.1
Carrying: 8
Vision: 39.5
Kicking: 10
Confidence: 31.5
Punting: 8

0,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,3


Originally posted by Takashi-Guard

Strength: 100.71
Blocking: 72.71
Speed: 48.15
Tackling: 16.99
Agility: 49.26
Throwing: 8
Jumping: 8
Catching: 10
Stamina: 30.07
Carrying: 8
Vision: 38.63
Kicking: 9
Confidence: 37.71
Punting: 9

0,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,1


Originally posted by Jefferson-Guard

Strength: 100.7
Blocking: 72.7
Speed: 49.52
Tackling: 16.99
Agility: 49.26
Throwing: 9
Jumping: 8
Catching: 9
Stamina: 29.85
Carrying: 9
Vision: 37.38
Kicking: 9
Confidence: 37.7
Punting: 9

0,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,1


Originally posted by Wallach-Center

Strength: 102.37
Blocking: 78.37
Speed: 49.19
Tackling: 15.47
Agility: 49.92
Throwing: 9
Jumping: 8
Catching: 8
Stamina: 34.13
Carrying: 8
Vision: 41.66
Kicking: 8
Confidence: 22.2
Punting: 8

0,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,1

The Guards might as well take confidence to the soft cap also. The level gains are better spent in the 2:1 range.

They should think about taking agility to the 2nd cap also to combat the super agile DTs that are emerging, and at some point vision should be capped on all of them (does it make that much of a difference though?)

For me, Pass Block and Run Block SAs are fundamental as they are % attribute modifiers (I guess). If you are willing to spend 3:1 Str/Blk you should be willing to spend 3:1 in these. Also one of your guys has advanced equipment in Pass Block - if he takes it to 5/6 raw it will be 10 before too long. That would be a nice boost.

Stamina still seems in the trainable range, and if you apply enough of a rotation should be fine.

As for other SAs, they are open to debate, but I wouldn't bother adding any yet.

I like the builds overall though

The basic plan is to train stamina/confidence forever on all of them (unless they softcap them).

Vision helps more than people give it credit for. Its not exactly quantifiable, but I built or am building vision last on all of them, and they play much better with higher vision.

I tend to agree with you on pass block and run block, but my basic thought is give all? of them some serious pancake action. I know its not very effective (still) for blocking, but the energy and morale depletion is intense. I designed them all to be pancakers. The plan was to own the second half against backups or worn out D Linemen/LBs.

Seems fair enough, based on this I'll softcap vision.

The best pancakers I have seen also have a high Run Block SA, although it depends so much on energy/opposition/tactics it is hard to quantify. Your G who has the advanced equipment has a big potential to be a monster in this respect. Some people (myself included) feel that points spent in Pancake are points wasted though - you only have to look at the pancake totals in the pro leagues to see that this SA doesn't trigger often against top players. If you want to go down this route though perhaps it is best to PM someone who has players with lots of pancakes in pro leagues so they can give you more solid advice than you will receive here.

It is still not too late to find decent advanced equipment for the rest of your players also. At lvl 33 I got a +3 Str +1 Pass Block SA piece, at the end of this season it will be +7 Blk/Str +3 SA, and the end of next +9 Blk/Str +4 SA. With my Pass Block at 6 without equipment, the extra 4 will put it to 10 which should be useful (hopefully!). This will save me 18 Skill points in this particular SA, although of course that is theoretical as I would never naturally raise it to 10.

The shopping is a real lottery though.

Agility to the +3 (or even +4) cap.

Your tackles will get demolished with such low agility.