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Jack Del Rio
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Actually I have no idea if it's a great start since it's my first CB, but I have learned that if you don't make the threads sound worthwhile you won't get as much input
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=763778

Strength: 15.57 Blocking: 9
Speed: 76.78 (14 from equip) Tackling: 15.57
Agility: 61.99 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 28.78 Catching: 18.37
Stamina: 33.73 (4 from equip) Carrying: 15.57
Vision: 60.38 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 15.57 Punting: 8
Shutdown: 1-1-1-1-1 (custom)
Speedster: 0-0-0-0-0
(I have 4 more points into equipment that I can upgrade, I just am not going to waste money to upgrade stamina equipment that will eventually be gone. I'm on a farm team)

Basically speed and agility are 2nd capped and vision is 8 bonus tokens away from being 2nd capped too. I originally started out wanting to make a "zone CB", so the very first thing I took to the first cap was agility, then vision, and then speed after that, but after that I kind of decided wanting to make a zone CB is a pretty naive idea to have when you kind of have to be good at man to be useful.

Now my inclination is, since I've been doing the jumping/stamina training all the way up to those amounts, to 1st cap or even 2nd cap jumping, and maybe experiment with pumping the "Swat Ball" skill? With speed/agility/jumping/vision all 2nd capped, with all equip in speed, and some swat ball, I'm thinking if I get the right tactics set that it could be pretty effective?

Also, anyone know what the deal is with Super Vision? I personally think it's a useless skill if you just soft cap vision, but anyone find it worth having with 60+ vision?

I'm neglecting catching for the time being because I am really all about the PDs and not trying to build for INTs. If a ball is thrown that far off that it falls into my lap and I drop it, whatever, but I'd rather be shutdown and INTless than allow big plays and rack up INTs to go along with it. I don't even want the QB looking at the WR I am covering. Plus I figure if I have 60 vision and 60 jumping that that should double as a contributing factor to catching balls, whereas catching doesn't help with coverage (right?).
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mmuhr
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Super Vision is my CBs best friend. After I pumped it up to 5 from 1 I noticed a HUGE increase in his ability to get reads on plays. He is more likely to stay with defenders, notice a ball coming, and make a good play on it. I think once vision is at the 48 softcap it should stay there. I dont think your 60 vision will be as effective as a CB with 50 vision and 5 SV. Super Vision boosts your vision by a certain percentage or something. The difference between 50-60 vision probably isnt that much, since pts become less effective the higher you go. So supervision is a more effective way of boosting it. Id get it to at least 5. Im gonna take it up to 7 on my level 24CB.

Oh and yeah catching=worthless. My CB had none all last season and lead the leagues in interceptions. Its your ability to get in position to make the play that gets you picks. That means speed/agility/vision/jumping. That is also why I would get Supervision instead of swat ball. Supervision helps you anticipate the ball coming and get into position for the swat, along with all the other awesome things it does for your player.
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Korwin
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your build looks good as you haven't been wasting points.

u also neglected strength and tackling.

as for super vision, some people think it's the best thing ever. idk, how much you really need.
 
RoyWilliams11
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Good build, but we will have to see how good you do when you play us, see if you can stop our WR haha, Nice build though.
 
Rogafella
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i would go train your stength and tackling and put sp into your shutdown tree and jumping.
 
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5-6 Super Vision
20-25 Str/Tackling
40+ Jumping
30+ Confidence
30+ Catching
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by Jack Del Rio
Actually I have no idea if it's a great start since it's my first CB, but I have learned that if you don't make the threads sound worthwhile you won't get as much input
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=763778

Strength: 15.57 Blocking: 9
Speed: 76.78 (14 from equip) Tackling: 15.57
Agility: 61.99 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 28.78 Catching: 18.37
Stamina: 33.73 (4 from equip) Carrying: 15.57
Vision: 60.38 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 15.57 Punting: 8
Shutdown: 1-1-1-1-1 (custom)
Speedster: 0-0-0-0-0
(I have 4 more points into equipment that I can upgrade, I just am not going to waste money to upgrade stamina equipment that will eventually be gone. I'm on a farm team)

Basically speed and agility are 2nd capped and vision is 8 bonus tokens away from being 2nd capped too. I originally started out wanting to make a "zone CB", so the very first thing I took to the first cap was agility, then vision, and then speed after that, but after that I kind of decided wanting to make a zone CB is a pretty naive idea to have when you kind of have to be good at man to be useful.

Now my inclination is, since I've been doing the jumping/stamina training all the way up to those amounts, to 1st cap or even 2nd cap jumping, and maybe experiment with pumping the "Swat Ball" skill? With speed/agility/jumping/vision all 2nd capped, with all equip in speed, and some swat ball, I'm thinking if I get the right tactics set that it could be pretty effective?

Also, anyone know what the deal is with Super Vision? I personally think it's a useless skill if you just soft cap vision, but anyone find it worth having with 60+ vision?

I'm neglecting catching for the time being because I am really all about the PDs and not trying to build for INTs. If a ball is thrown that far off that it falls into my lap and I drop it, whatever, but I'd rather be shutdown and INTless than allow big plays and rack up INTs to go along with it. I don't even want the QB looking at the WR I am covering. Plus I figure if I have 60 vision and 60 jumping that that should double as a contributing factor to catching balls, whereas catching doesn't help with coverage (right?).


Very nice. I have 3 corners being made right now to look like that by level 24. My plans at that point would be to softcap jumping, train str and tackling and work on s.a's. I am going to have double capped speed, agility and vision for all my guys by level 24 as well.
 
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That's going to be a damn good corner, man. for s.a's I would get a couple in first step and change direction. And concentrate mostly on super vision. your call though. Some people go for shut down coverage. I don't know I am about to pump shut down coverage for my high level C.B. to see how much it helps.
 
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Originally posted by RoyWilliams11
Good build, but we will have to see how good you do when you play us, see if you can stop our WR haha, Nice build though.


Well imagine if the team had two of those CBs . Oh wait...

You beat me to it JDR , I was about to make this thread as well .

To Rogafella and UnderDogs: Sorry , but don't think that strength/tackling training is gonna happen .

This CB is built to shutdown and if the ball is eventually is thrown his way make the PD . He's gonna be a weakass with no strength/tackling , but if he shuts the WR down , who's gonna need it . Put points in speed/agility/vision/jumping and SAs would give more value imho .

Did anyone even try this before , would be nice to hear if someone did
 
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Originally posted by Iversen5771
Originally posted by RoyWilliams11

Good build, but we will have to see how good you do when you play us, see if you can stop our WR haha, Nice build though.


Well imagine if the team had two of those CBs . Oh wait...

You beat me to it JDR , I was about to make this thread as well .

To Rogafella and UnderDogs: Sorry , but don't think that strength/tackling training is gonna happen .

This CB is built to shutdown and if the ball is eventually is thrown his way make the PD . He's gonna be a weakass with no strength/tackling , but if he shuts the WR down , who's gonna need it . Put points in speed/agility/vision/jumping and SAs would give more value imho .

Did anyone even try this before , would be nice to hear if someone did


that's fine. you can neglect tackling. I would not neglect str(25-30ish). it's your guy though . just thank me later when you find out why I am right.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Iversen5771

Originally posted by RoyWilliams11


Good build, but we will have to see how good you do when you play us, see if you can stop our WR haha, Nice build though.


Well imagine if the team had two of those CBs . Oh wait...

You beat me to it JDR , I was about to make this thread as well .

To Rogafella and UnderDogs: Sorry , but don't think that strength/tackling training is gonna happen .

This CB is built to shutdown and if the ball is eventually is thrown his way make the PD . He's gonna be a weakass with no strength/tackling , but if he shuts the WR down , who's gonna need it . Put points in speed/agility/vision/jumping and SAs would give more value imho .

Did anyone even try this before , would be nice to hear if someone did


that's fine. you can neglect tackling. I would not neglect str(25-30ish). it's your guy though . just thank me later when you find out why I am right.


Sure thing , like the input and I'm sure JDR will too . Just can't see where it's comming into play if you've got your guy all coverede though ?
 
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Originally posted by Iversen5771
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Iversen5771


Originally posted by RoyWilliams11



Good build, but we will have to see how good you do when you play us, see if you can stop our WR haha, Nice build though.


Well imagine if the team had two of those CBs . Oh wait...

You beat me to it JDR , I was about to make this thread as well .

To Rogafella and UnderDogs: Sorry , but don't think that strength/tackling training is gonna happen .

This CB is built to shutdown and if the ball is eventually is thrown his way make the PD . He's gonna be a weakass with no strength/tackling , but if he shuts the WR down , who's gonna need it . Put points in speed/agility/vision/jumping and SAs would give more value imho .

Did anyone even try this before , would be nice to hear if someone did


that's fine. you can neglect tackling. I would not neglect str(25-30ish). it's your guy though . just thank me later when you find out why I am right.


Sure thing , like the input and I'm sure JDR will too . Just can't see where it's comming into play if you've got your guy all coverede though ?


Str does so many things. The most important would be to break a wide receiver block on a pitch, so you can get into position to make a tackle. but it goes further than that. I agree tackling can be neglected to a certain extent. Str can not be so neglected. but it's not like god important.
 
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definitely on the right track with the 60 in the big three. next is capping jumping. then go from there by personal preference.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
definitely on the right track with the 60 in the big three. next is capping jumping. then go from there by personal preference.


The next step might be 3rd capping those big three , not sure yet . There's a little time to think about that . Also depends when/if we're getting off the farm team and we need to use SAs .

And I know the fact that strength is important for stopping the outside runs , but does it help when in pass coverage ? just wondering .
 
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Originally posted by Iversen5771
Originally posted by UnderDogs

definitely on the right track with the 60 in the big three. next is capping jumping. then go from there by personal preference.


The next step might be 3rd capping those big three , not sure yet . There's a little time to think about that . Also depends when/if we're getting off the farm team and we need to use SAs .

And I know the fact that strength is important for stopping the outside runs , but does it help when in pass coverage ? just wondering .


Yes it helps in pass coverage.
 
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