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Tito716
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I was thinking about cover up SA.

I don't have any points in it. I rarely fumble.

My teammate who has a similar build to mine, has 2 in cover up and fumbles substantially more than me.

He has 10 more strength than me I have 12 more carrying than him. I also have more speed which SHOULD cause more fumbles due to momentum, but hasn't yet.

If carrying is the prime factor preventing fumbles, how important is Cover Up?

Given the % Advanced Equip, it occurred to me that Cover Up may be something like +1% "not fumble." Meaning, if you already have a 90% chance of not fumbling, 1 Cover Up would only give you a 90.9% chance of not fumbling.
 
Tito716
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No thoughts?

You all drink the "Cover Up" Kool Aid?

Oh Yeah!!! *Breaks through the wall*
 
Dianwei32
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I'm undeceded. I'm sure it has an impact, but I'm not sure how big that impact is. this season has been full of fumbles regardless. There was a stretch where I had 1-2 fumbles a game, but since then I've increased Cover Up by 1 and Carrying by 5 or so and I haven't fumbled in the last few games.
 
Bsabres19
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I have 4 in coverup, and 45 carrying, and fumble almost once a game.

Fumbling has been a major issue this year it seems.
 
Tito716
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Originally posted by Bsabres19
I have 4 in coverup, and 45 carrying, and fumble almost once a game.

Fumbling has been a major issue this year it seems.


But that really gets to the heart of my question.

If you are fumbling once per game with 4 in Cover Up. Is Cover Up really helping?

 
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Originally posted by Tito716
Originally posted by Bsabres19

I have 4 in coverup, and 45 carrying, and fumble almost once a game.

Fumbling has been a major issue this year it seems.


But that really gets to the heart of my question.

If you are fumbling once per game with 4 in Cover Up. Is Cover Up really helping?



I dont think anyone really has a definite answer to that. Either its not helping and its a waste of points, or having even less in Cover Up would mean even MORE fumbles.

I wish I had the answer too.
 
Tito716
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Well. I have 3 fumbles in 242 Carries. 49 carry and no Cover Up.

I know its anecdotal, but its all I can go from.
 
floods
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Originally posted by Tito716
Well. I have 3 fumbles in 242 Carries. 49 carry and no Cover Up.

I know its anecdotal, but its all I can go from.


Depends on the competition you're playing against, but assuming it's even then that's either some astounding luck or adds validity to the power of carrying. There's no way to accurately guess what the bonus would be if Cover Up adds a %-based bonus to fumble protection, but it would make sense if that was how it worked. I think most of us assumed early on that the SA's were a bonus to base attributes which went into formulas for breaking tackles, making tackles, fumbling, etc, but with the release of AE you may be right.
 
supersoul
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I bet Tito's guy has more strength than bsabres' guy.
 
Tito716
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Well.

My HB is 39 str.

The other HB on my team is 55 str and 37 carry with 3 Cover Up. He has 5 fumbles in 255 attempts.

But thats 1 every 50 carries VS 1 every 80 carries.
 
ZeroTolerance
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Last season: 384 touches, 3 fumbles
This season: 284 touches, 8 fumbles

Only minor increases to speed between the two (same level of cover up, slight increase in carrying). *shrug*
 
jayhop72
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this season lvl 31
touches 354
yds 2,253

fumb 10
fumb lost 6 (lead league)

Carrying is at 39
cover up is at 2.

Dont do this!!!!!!!!!!!!! have more carrying and cover up
 
floods
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Originally posted by jayhop72
this season lvl 31
touches 354
yds 2,253

fumb 10
fumb lost 6 (lead league)

Carrying is at 39
cover up is at 2.

Dont do this!!!!!!!!!!!!! have more carrying and cover up


Damn dude, think maybe a little of that might be stamina? That's a ton of touches.
 
jayhop72
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hahhahah lol your most likely right ya screw carrying all get stamina up thanks for the input. ive ended with about 40 to 35 stamina a game other than when we past it a lot.
are team runs 50run/50pass. #4 in the league.
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floods
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Originally posted by jayhop72
hahhahah lol your most likely right ya screw carrying all get stamina up thanks for the input. ive ended with about 40 to 35 stamina a game other than when we past it a lot.
are team runs 50run/50pass. #4 in the league.


Jeebus! :blink:

Yeah, I'd get more HB's in the rotation, personally. Splitting time with a guy who's also returning punts and kicks is going to tank both of yall by halftime.
 
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