Warrior General Games

So me and my GM bust a$$ recruiting, readings posts, setting up game AIs, keeping people happy on the team, etc. Then someone who spends daddie's credit card to make 40 some odd players can win a game with lvl 12s vrs a team with higher levels in every position.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=185916

Can someone explain how this game makes a lick of sense? Is there some huge advantage to every player on the team being owned by one agent? I've slow built a few characters up into the low teens also, but I just dont see how they could be this dominant.

you lost by one TD in overtime. How is that dominant?

There really is a huge advantage and there was some talk about a sportsmanship penalty for owners who had several players on a team. The owner can build each player to perfectly fit each position and normally the backups are equal to the starters ability wise. Also he he knows what each players individual tactics are set to and can change them to fit his game plan. The top two teams in our capped league last season was just like this one.

Game plans and builds. ksmilkman knows his stuff. The fact that he owns most (or all?) of the players on his team is completely irrelevant. He won because he has very good builds on every single player, and knows how to game plan well. He is an experienced owner - he owned a team last season and did very well, but ended up selling it, I believe due to inactivity.

Level means jack shit. You got out coached and out played. Period.

I'm confused. Let me know if I missed something, but based on this link, they were favored. That means that although your players are higher level, his players builds are better.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/compare_teams.pl?team1=5836&team2=5840

Originally posted by Forbin
Game plans and builds. ksmilkman knows his stuff. The fact that he owns most (or all?) of the players on his team is completely irrelevant. He won because he has very good builds on every single player, and knows how to game plan well. He is an experienced owner - he owned a team last season and did very well, but ended up selling it, I believe due to inactivity.

Level means jack shit. You got out coached and out played. Period.

Outbought, and outbuilt.

Sure, an owner who builds his entire team might not build a perfect team, but they almost always build a really good one. I know everyone has the ability to go and recruit a perfect team, but the option of spending 50+ hours PMing all the agents with the exact builds/attitude/custom EQ you want is a lot harder to pull off just right than just putting the 100k flex on your credit card.

Originally posted by pestface
Originally posted by Forbin

Game plans and builds. ksmilkman knows his stuff. The fact that he owns most (or all?) of the players on his team is completely irrelevant. He won because he has very good builds on every single player, and knows how to game plan well. He is an experienced owner - he owned a team last season and did very well, but ended up selling it, I believe due to inactivity.

Level means jack shit. You got out coached and out played. Period.

Outbought, and outbuilt.

Sure, an owner who builds his entire team might not build a perfect team, but they almost always build a really good one. I know everyone has the ability to go and recruit a perfect team, but the option of spending 50+ hours PMing all the agents with the exact builds/attitude/custom EQ you want is a lot harder to pull off just right than just putting the 100k flex on your credit card.

And yet, I don't see the problem.

There are a good number of expansion teams from this last season that either recruited or a got a group of friends together for a great team. I could have gone either way myself. I actually have 100k flex right now, lol.. But I don't find it very interesting to talk to myself in a forum. I'd rather do the whole personal interaction bit and build a team with other people, but I don't see what the problem is with a self-built team.

Hell, my team started 0-4 this season (In Africa A1), we're 4-4 now though, in a really good league where most of the teams have many agents on each team. I doubt many of them have 20+ agents like my 100% recruited team, (I have 5 players on the team - most have 1-2) but the top 8 teams in Africa A1 would beat the pants off ksmilkman's team, and most (or all?) of us are recruited teams.

I also spent well over 50 hours putting my team together. I don't mind. Neither should you.

I have been half tempted to build all the players i need. He is a better player than you. You can't whine about it, you just have to try and get better yourself.

But i'm with Forbin on this one again. I like the interaction of the other agents.

Originally posted by pestface
Originally posted by Forbin

Game plans and builds. ksmilkman knows his stuff. The fact that he owns most (or all?) of the players on his team is completely irrelevant. He won because he has very good builds on every single player, and knows how to game plan well. He is an experienced owner - he owned a team last season and did very well, but ended up selling it, I believe due to inactivity.

Level means jack shit. You got out coached and out played. Period.

Outbought, and outbuilt.

Sure, an owner who builds his entire team might not build a perfect team, but they almost always build a really good one. I know everyone has the ability to go and recruit a perfect team, but the option of spending 50+ hours PMing all the agents with the exact builds/attitude/custom EQ you want is a lot harder to pull off just right than just putting the 100k flex on your credit card.

50 hours? I spent way more than that...more like 100+.

Builds>tactics>levels....Look at who you recruited and look at your tactics.

I was a GM on a team that got all our players but this year me and a friend built our own team. He built the D and I built the O. I have a lot more fun and I really don't care if there is a bit of a penalty for us having all our own players because we are trying to see what works. If you make solid builds then you are going to be okay. If you have a RB with 30 kicking then I'm guessing that your guys don't know how to build. But for me having half the team making sure that tactics are set right, that I don't have a huge dropoff in bench production, and just straight up gameplanning teams is a lot more fun than fighting for people to come play for me.

I never said I wasn't willing to put in the time, I'm just trying to say that a hard-built team can be very easily challenged by one guy who starts with all the players in his wallet.

And IMO buying all those players doesn't make you a smarter or better agent, you're just spending money instead of time.

Originally posted by pestface
you're just spending money instead of time.

Which means you're spending time in a different way. I spend time at my job to have a good GLB team, you spend time recruiting.

I don't think either way is better or worse, but I am having more fun playing a football sim instead of being part of the day-time soap opera that is recruiting.

Originally posted by pestface
I never said I wasn't willing to put in the time, I'm just trying to say that a hard-built team can be very easily challenged by one guy who starts with all the players in his wallet.

And IMO buying all those players doesn't make you a smarter or better agent, you're just spending money instead of time.

Buying players doesn't make you better or smarter, but being better and smarter and buying players is obviously successful.

No one talks about the one-man teams that fail...and there have been quite a few. People do get worked up over the one-man teams that kick their ass all over the field though. Imagine that.

There are advantages to each sort of team building. Believe me, the really good one-man owners spend ridiculous amounts of time and energy on the game (in addition to the money).

You have the ability to recruit better players at every position, the one-man team is usually pretty much locked into his/her builds...that is one particluarly significant advantage. The one-man show is his own weakest link...that is both the advantage and disadvantage. If they are good at the game, then yeah...you better bring your A-game.