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dm153450
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Anyone know?

I've forced a fumble in 4 of the last 5 games. Which brings me to conclude that I have no idea what stats/settings you need to force one. I've been on wrap-up, and have sub 30 str and tackling. I have one sa in monster hit, but I wouldn't think it would trigger so often. Maybe there is a speed related trigger, you get up faster = the harder you hit? Most forced fumbles seemed to come at the beginning of the game so it's not like we've worn down there confidence/moral. Is there any great bonus to being 2+ levels higher then who you tackle?

Anyone have any input on this?

I was lvl 18-19 vs:

Fumble 1 - First series on lvl 18 RB
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=181136&pbp_id=3051022

Fumble 2 - 6th series on lvl 15 RB
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=181110&pbp_id=4200627

Fumble 3 - Second series on lvl 17 speed back
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=181089&pbp_id=4723967

Fumble 4- Second series against lvl 14 FB (stats open):http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=729802
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=181064&pbp_id=5258233
 
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speed and vision both increase fumbles imo.
 
dm153450
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It makes me wonder if there is a momentum variable to see how much force you slam into a guy at, then check to see if the carrier's carrying and strength can withstand it?
 
wallysmith
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Originally posted by dm153450
It makes me wonder if there is a momentum variable to see how much force you slam into a guy at, then check to see if the carrier's carrying and strength can withstand it?


I'm sure there is. There looks to be a disproportionate amount of FFum on returners for special teams (especially on KR) when a gunner comes barreling down their lane untouched.
 
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Originally posted by dm153450

I'm sure there is. There looks to be a disproportionate amount of FFum on returners for special teams (especially on KR) when a gunner comes barreling down their lane untouched.



that's not disproportionate at all. it's completely realistic. i definitely agree there is a momentum/force component to causing fumbles.
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wallysmith
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Well, I meant versus real life football. In real football, more fumbles happen conventionally versus on returns.
 
jackATTACK55
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thats weird you made the FB that has 4 in cover up and a good amount of stgh and carrying fumble...
 
dm153450
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Originally posted by jackATTACK55
thats weird you made the FB that has 4 in cover up and a good amount of stgh and carrying fumble...


That is what I thought. I think this also goes to confirm that SA are a waste without a good set of base stats.
 
tautology
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The first three fumbles all have something in common...something I have noted for a long time, and something that I don't think you have much control over as a coach or player.

The last one...well, that FB is not very good in any way.
 
Marshy
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I have no idea at all.

Horsecollar has;
48+ Strength
48+ Tackling
60+ Speed
60+ Vision
60+ Agility
5 in Monster Hit
Power Tackling

and has forced no Fumbles all season
 
wallysmith
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You're also in a pro league. I would imagine even the weaker elusive backs there have at least soft capped carrying and strength.
 
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yea but no forced fumbles even with power tackling? are you getting tackles? that is a little odd to me. maybe power tackling sucks.
 
Marshy
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Not a huge load, i average just under 5 tackles a game (37 tackles so far on the season)

In season 3 i averaged 1 FF every 21 tackles (128 tackles, 6 FF) so i'm patiently waiting but it doesn't look like it's going to happen! I can't see anything glaringly wrong with my attributes to not get any at all. We'll have to wait and see i guess.

WallySmith - Your LB is having a HUGE season! If you have any tips or anything to help me out i'd appreciate it greatly if you PMd me
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Marshy
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Another 5 tackle, no FF day
 
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My LB just got a big FF in an important game today. He is very low in monster hit and SAs in general. Try getting speed to over 70 Marshy, maybe move a piece of equipment.
 
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