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kennygeorge
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hey fellas...what everyone think of the headfake SA for a WR??...good...bad..cant tell?

how much does it help...anythings appritiated...thanks
 
Adderfist
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Worthless and wasted points. Better off bumping all important stats to softcap
 
taurran
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Yeah, WR SA's aren't even worth it except for maybe the first two in either tree. The vast majority of WR plays are made before the catch so I'd invest in things that let your player get open.
 
Viscount
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Yes but WRs can use their skills after the catch to extend the play like this:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=181374&pbp_id=1594742

Also Head Fake is actually active on routes so WRs can use it against CBs when they cut so the CB can't turn with the WR. Bort has said this.
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kennygeorge
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Originally posted by Adderfist
Worthless and wasted points. Better off bumping all important stats to softcap


I am a level 31 with a pretty solid build IMO...most of my attributes are about where i want them...and i also have quite a few points in the first SA in each tree....so i was wondering how much head fake actually helps in getting open.
 
Viscount
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Originally posted by Bort
Agile WR's don't have a way to fake out equally agile CB's and get open. I'm increasing the effect of the head fake and juke SA's, and adding some reduced reaction time for defenders based on vision and agility and coverage distance. The result is that on some plays the CB will stay with the WR and on others he will not make the turn with the receiver until a split second too late. This effect also comes into play when receivers make quick cuts.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2262&page=6
 
Adderfist
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Originally posted by Viscount
Yes but WRs can use their skills after the catch to extend the play like this:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=181374&pbp_id=1594742

Also Head Fake is actually active on routes so WRs can use it against CBs when they cut so the CB can't turn with the WR. Bort has said this.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=137412&pbp_id=9082176

This is my WR. Who headfaked to a TD. I regret putting points into HF as it's extremely ineffective.

I can count how many times i've headfaked someone this season on one hand.
 
tsosumi
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who knows if that could be something like a mix of head fake, pump fake, and juke.
 
winchester
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It works sometimes. I think for it to truly work you need it to 9+. Here it worked on this play.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=148935&pbp_id=2885644
 
osu11
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i believe he was wondering about the getting open part of it...
 
Adderfist
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Read my post.
 
oshow
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Originally posted by winchester
It works sometimes. I think for it to truly work you need it to 9+. Here it worked on this play.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=148935&pbp_id=2885644


what speed is on that guy..
 
winchester
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Originally posted by oshow
Originally posted by winchester

It works sometimes. I think for it to truly work you need it to 9+. Here it worked on this play.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=148935&pbp_id=2885644


what speed is on that guy..


A lot.

I have found head fake really does not do much till you catch the ball. Then I have found it works exp if the CB is in front of you. Once I get it to 9 I will let everyone know.
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=187111&pbp_id=693165

I'm not sure if this is head fake or just terrible effort on the linebacker and corner but he has some points spent in head fake.
 


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