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Hopefully it will. It will at least get some of the gutted teams out of here if I understand it correctly.

Originally posted by kmart
Hopefully it will. It will at least get some of the gutted teams out of here if I understand it correctly.

Yeah I think minimum average level makes sense, not just minimum level.

I like this fix... however, I would have liked it more at the start of a season, not 5 games in when teams have already rolled off a couple of wins against the gutted teams.

as i understand it the change wont impact this season unless a team gets sold mid-season...so the gutted teams under new owners remain as is until year end...so it shouldnt have the negative impact of taking out the teams others have pounded...if so Kazan gets screwed hugely since we have played the real teams to start the season...

I still don't see the "owner can't sell team mid-season" bullet.

According to his bullet points, teams won't be relegated until the offseason, which keeps the playing field level. If there were some way to do it now and have games retroactively simmed for the replacement teams, I'd prefer that, but that would give OC/DC nightmares.

If the CPU players truely do play better, that hurts the league leader competition, but that's a relatively minor point. I do think that this point, CPU buffs should be saved until the end of season. CPU teams aren't going anywhere and will be blown out regardless; might as well keep it the same for now.

Besides, I'd like to have one last chance at a double digit PR TD game .

Originally posted by G33
I still don't see the "owner can't sell team mid-season" bullet.

According to his bullet points, teams won't be relegated until the offseason, which keeps the playing field level. If there were some way to do it now and have games retroactively simmed for the replacement teams, I'd prefer that, but that would give OC/DC nightmares.

If the CPU players truely do play better, that hurts the league leader competition, but that's a relatively minor point. I do think that this point, CPU buffs should be saved until the end of season. CPU teams aren't going anywhere and will be blown out regardless; might as well keep it the same for now.

Besides, I'd like to have one last chance at a double digit PR TD game .

Contracts are locked into day 40 and better CPU players replace missing starters.

does it fix it? probably not but it will definitely be a bit more competitive. In order to Fix it Caps needs to figure out heed needs to have 11 players on the field to play defense!!

Originally posted by Saerin
does it fix it? probably not but it will definitely be a bit more competitive. In order to Fix it Caps needs to figure out heed needs to have 11 players on the field to play defense!!

It will fix the major blowout problems. At least, until someone sells their team and their players get vultured.

This fix is due, we the people fought hard to make this happen and it is finally happening. Life may be pumped back into the game, but it also may be too late as many weren't able to stick it out.

Originally posted by Kcirdor
This fix is due, we the people fought hard to make this happen and it is finally happening. Life may be pumped back into the game, but it also may be too late as many weren't able to stick it out.

Indeed, should have happened before heading into S6. But finally it's here so at least SOME competition will be had in Pro next year. Zeta is stacked as it is, or a very tight conference at the top with more teams up there than alpha with 2.

I look forward to next year, but if you look down at AAA...how many teams are really going to be competitive up here? From AAA2 where I know it better, I don't see someone who can jump up and compete. Minsk performs decently during the year but always has failjobs in the playoffs, St pete is out leveled a bit on both sides of the ball and there are very few "weak" builded teams so they could get pushed around. The Kings who just promoted look good but are also 3-4levels behind (assuming they are boosted which it looks like on most spots).

I guess Ill post a serious response.

will this change help fix competitiveness or lack there of? Yeah it will, unless there is just a huge amount of teams being sold back but this system should be able to handle 3 or 4 each year.

Hell this may be the best thing bort has done for GLB in a long time.

1) there really wont be any reason for teams to gut midseason. the owner can just get a GM that wants to run the team til the end of the season. Should that GM want to take over the team great...most players will likely stick around then. If nobody wants to take over they all become FA at the end of the season and the team gets reset.

2) with any number of teams being reset there will be a constant demand for low level players to get the team started. This means new players will have a better chance of landing a human controlled team once they are no longer eligible for the D leagues.

3) it helps keeps leagues at least somewhat competitive. with a greater promotion/relegation rate there will eventually be teams in leagues that are just way beyond their level/ability. but even they will be better than a gutted team.

ok seriousness is over back to making fun of caps until he makes me his HB!!

Yeah I see at least 5 teams coming up to Zeta, Im going to attempt to flag all EE Pro teams as the following:

-Very Competitive
-Competitive
-Average
-Not Competitive
-Gutted/Cupcake

I think if we could organize the league into those 5 categories, then we as a league could submit that to the admins to assist with our reorganization.

I really believe that teams in the bottom two categories need to go, if you are losing games by over 20 or 30 each game, there is no reason for you to be in EE Pro, particularly because you get to beat up on cupcakes, so if you are in the "not competitive" category this season, when at least 5 new stronger teams come up, you will be in the cupcake category, so its better that we just do it all at once and get rid of anyone who isnt near .500 as it stands. That doesnt mean dropped to the bottom, that just means down to AAA or AA or something, there are 3 gutted teams in Zeta and they all get to be dropped down to A.

Thats what Id say, if you cant make .500 with a lot of weak teams, you should be demoted, because next season you are going to be a punching bag. If Zeta doesnt gut ... which I am more optimistic that Prague wont quit .. though Im not sure yet .. I have promises from my team to stick out this season and nothing more, then Zeta might be really strong. Depending on how all this reorganization works, Ill talk to my team and see I guess.

But certainly it will be more competitive and interesting next season, its a little late in coming, but what can you do, at least its coming. Finally Bort saw the bankroll decreasing and HAD to do something, so he finally did.

Looks like GMs now stay on the team when it gets sold, which makes sense if Bort stopped midseason team purchases.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=3058

I'm pretty sure that this team was sold before rollover, so I suppose the contract script hasn't processed yet.

The competitiveness overhaul is long overdue, but so are many other things (such as injuries, sportsmanship, and penalties). I hope Bort is able to step it up and get all of these things rolling for season 6, and also touch upon other missing aspects (QB scrambling, among others). I just hope Bort has been able to keep his code fairly clean up to this point, though if it's not, that would explain all of the delays.

There's a lot of problems that will arise in EE related to promoting teams beyond winning it in the playoffs. I can name two or three AA teams that would be more competitive than AAA teams who one or two playoff games. Who gets the nod there? An AA team damn close to earning it's way up or a playoff AAA team? It's hard to judge.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=2052 would compete in Pro more than a couple Alpha teams in EE AAA I know of.

But I'm glad the issue was finally noticed and actions are being put in place to resolve the issue. It's just going to take some thought on how to actually 'fix' it.